Do Vampires think Humans Have Souls?
This was originally posted as a comment to the article Samantha The Real Vampire
Do you think that humans have souls? I have to deal with the death everyday at work and many people believe in souls or spirits that dwell inside our flesh. Some believe that they are reincarnated souls moving from body to body. Yours, I believe would be stuck in your body for as long as you are a vampire. This could be a very long time. So, I was taught.
But other vampires that have been hunted and killed must have moved on if this is true. So a bunch more questions firstly, I will describe your kind as immortal but I know that is not 100% true. If anything ever happened to you, where do you think your soul would go and can you sense other vampires like your kind a “full blood immortal” around you. What does this feel like? Headaches? Body vibration?
Can you sense the souls, if you believe in them of a Vampire that may have been hunted and killed and is reincarnated living as a mortal and do you have the urge to change them back into your kind.
Personal question and you don’t have to answer Can you have children through sex? Or are you unable to procreate this way?
I know that you believe in God. I know you even pray but do you think that you will be punished just for being what you are if anything were ever to happen to you or do you have faith that no matter what you will be forgiven and you too will be reincarnated as another being.
I have heard of this connection between vampires through blood. The connection is that the sire is always a part of you. I believe it is a myth though that if the sire is harmed you are harmed. In fact, when I was sent away to learn about your kind, my teachers taught me if the sire is hunted and killed nothing will happen to their fledglings. But the fledglings will definitely sense something is wrong. I was also taught that each vampire must be dealt with one by one. But, if the sire is killed this does not affect the fledgling in any way physically though. You know what I mean like the Vampire movies?
I was also taught that the blood of dead humans tipped on sharp objects like knives, arrows and swords can be used as weapons. It can penetrate your skin and makes your kind sick and weakens you but doesn’t kill you. That weapons tipped with the blood of the dead were once used to hunt your kind long ago and to slow your kind down affectively. So, a kill could be made. A kill was always a decapitation.
I was taught the blood of a dead vampire is still affective in causing humans to change in to vampires if contact is made with it. You don’t have to answer if you don’t want to. Those that taught me about your kind described what you had in you was a venom like substance that causes changes in the human body. Like a symbiotic relationship. Certainly, it makes you stronger and faster and cures all kinds of ailments but it also entices you to kill without regard. That you are always in a state of blood lust and humans are basically food. That some vampires will promise the gift of immortality out of seduction, “I will make you a vampire,” but lie and kill trusting humans. I was taught not to trust your kind or face death. In fact, I was taught not even to communicate with your kind or my teachers would kill me. I wonder if they are reading this now? But like you say “who cares” let them. I am tired to of hiding to. But I haven’t seen many of them in a long time.
I was also told that many of your kind were killed in France during the revolution by decapitation. I was shown documents I believe were fake dating very far back as far as the 16th century that supposedly described your kind. I couldn’t understand them because they were written in other languages but told to trust. When I was sent away in the 1980’s, my teachers believed that there was a resurgence of your kind. They described you as an infection. They said that your population was growing then just as it had in the two previous decades the 1960’s and 1970’s. They said that it slowed down in the 1950s and 1940s and couldn’t account for this. Does any of this make sense? Because sometimes I feel like I have been brainwashed.
Recently, I have been attempting to get rid of the tattoo through laser treatments I received after I left them. All my grandparents are dead and I have not seen any of those that taught me since the late 1980’s. So, I don’t really care. Whenever I see a vampire movie now, I laugh and even more so when I watch Buffy the vampire slayer. But I know that there is some truth that is very strange. I have never told anyone where I was sent. It was in the States though and it was near your State it’s probably a coincidence. But a word of warning, be careful traveling through Alabama there are all kinds that might be looking out for your kind. I wish you the best Vampire girl and keep your head I am sure that it is a pretty head.
Sent in by Mark, Copyright 2010 VampireTruth.com
I just had a thought and I have to ask. I know this may appear to be a dumb question but are you the same Mark I have communicated with before. The one that lives in Canada, Ontario?
If you are the same Mark, Well Wow Mark!!
you are definitely revealing parts of yourself that’s fascinating. I am very interested in what else you learned and why do you think they have not pursued the vampire slaying practice? Not that I condone the practice in anyway, just curious.
I am pretty sure Samantha can outwit a vampire slayer, but just surprised that you were being educated to become one. Actually I am more surprised that you have admitted that little tit bit on this website.
i have you not told anyone where u studied becuz u cant or u just havent been asked??
becuz am curious to know??
Mark,
I would like to answer some of your questions in the topic so here it goes,
But other vampires that have been hunted and killed must have moved on if this is true. So a bunch more questions firstly, I will describe your kind as immortal but I know that is not 100% true. If anything ever happened to you, where do you think your soul would go and can you sense other vampires like your kind a “full blood immortal” around you. What does this feel like? Headaches? Body vibration?
When I sense another vampire it is usually through smell, from a vampire to a vampire it smells like death, like rotting flesh. Of course to a human, they do not smell this, instead they smell only what a human would to another human.
Can you sense the souls, if you believe in them of a Vampire that may have been hunted and killed and is reincarnated living as a mortal and do you have the urge to change them back into your kind.
I have never encountered this and if I ever did, I would not have an urge.
Personal question and you don’t have to answer Can you have children through sex? Or are you unable to procreate this way?
Sadly, it is extremely hard for 2 vampires to produce offspring, most are due to consistent problems during pregnancy leading to miscarage. but it is possible on rare occasions.
I know that you believe in God. I know you even pray but do you think that you will be punished just for being what you are if anything were ever to happen to you or do you have faith that no matter what you will be forgiven and you too will be reincarnated as another being.
I believe in god, just not in the way of the church, I do not pray either, and to be completely honest, I don’t think God will punish me for doing what needs to be done for me to survive in my life.
I have heard of this connection between vampires through blood. The connection is that the sire is always a part of you. I believe it is a myth though that if the sire is harmed you are harmed. In fact, when I was sent away to learn about your kind, my teachers taught me if the sire is hunted and killed nothing will happen to their fledglings. But the fledglings will definitely sense something is wrong. I was also taught that each vampire must be dealt with one by one. But, if the sire is killed this does not affect the fledgling in any way physically though. You know what I mean like the Vampire movies?
This must be a reference to “the maker of makers” or in other words the parents of all vampires, in which case, no killing them will have no effect on any other vampire.
I was also taught that the blood of dead humans tipped on sharp objects like knives, arrows and swords can be used as weapons. It can penetrate your skin and makes your kind sick and weakens you but doesn’t kill you. That weapons tipped with the blood of the dead were once used to hunt your kind long ago and to slow your kind down affectively. So, a kill could be made. A kill was always a decapitation.
Dead blood has an effect similar to food poisoning for humans on vampire. And back then a kill was a decapitation, later on sunlight pillars and fire were also used.
I was taught the blood of a dead vampire is still affective in causing humans to change in to vampires if contact is made with it. You don’t have to answer if you don’t want to. Those that taught me about your kind described what you had in you was a venom like substance that causes changes in the human body. Like a symbiotic relationship. Certainly, it makes you stronger and faster and cures all kinds of ailments but it also entices you to kill without regard. That you are always in a state of blood lust and humans are basically food. That some vampires will promise the gift of immortality out of seduction, “I will make you a vampire,” but lie and kill trusting humans. I was taught not to trust your kind or face death. In fact, I was taught not even to communicate with your kind or my teachers would kill me. I wonder if they are reading this now? But like you say “who cares” let them. I am tired to of hiding to. But I haven’t seen many of them in a long time.
Dead vampire blood would kill a human I would assume. And yes, vampirism is a bonding disease, it bonds to basically every tissue in your body and changes it, killing without regard is not a side effect though, but you do have a yearning for blood instead of food, and your teachers sound like an ancient order of vampire hunters called the “chenoborai” of course I am probably wrong.
I was also told that many of your kind were killed in France during the revolution by decapitation. I was shown documents I believe were fake dating very far back as far as the 16th century that supposedly described your kind. I couldn’t understand them because they were written in other languages but told to trust. When I was sent away in the 1980’s, my teachers believed that there was a resurgence of your kind. They described you as an infection. They said that your population was growing then just as it had in the two previous decades the 1960’s and 1970’s. They said that it slowed down in the 1950s and 1940s and couldn’t account for this. Does any of this make sense? Because sometimes I feel like I have been brainwashed.
On this subject you must be very careful, many elders will kill you for digging too far into this sort of subject. I said it in 2 previous posts and I will say it again, this sort of proof is never allowed to exist. Population growth has been awful by the way, we have barely increased in the US and Europe at least not like we used to back in the 1600s-1800s, I believe they used some bits of false information to get you to hate and want to put an end to our kind but I hope you did not play too far along.
are all vampires evil there should be some good guys
Natalie,
We are not all “evil” but then again, evil is a matter of perspective, you humans think killing another is “evil” but vampires see it as a way to keep them alive and living, so what you perceive to be “evil” we perceive to be basic survivability necessity. but take me for instance, if from your perspective killing another human is “evil” then I am somewhat of a good guy, my job within my former coven was to track and eliminate vampires that disrupted the natural order by senselessly killing humans for excess blood or for sheer fun.
I think that some humans have souls, and others don’t . Over the past hundred years I have noticed that some humans are as evil, as saint-en himself,… But there are others who are very kind. They make me remember the times as a human. Those wonderful times…
Nostalgia have we here Lissette?
what is the different between Body and Soul?
I do believe in everything, because everything is possible!.
Wow Xavier you seem very intelligent, how old are you?
Xavier if you have taken the life of anyone then you deserve to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
If you think you are a vampire how do resolve the rule of thermodynamics. Everything in the universe obey this law from stars to bacteria. Are you say that you are the only thing in all of the universe that doesn’t obey it? Human blood has virtually no calories in it. Energy is need to lets say walk or talk. How do you resolve this.
Ariana,
I am 148 years old.
Mike,
Like I have previously stated before, what you perceive to be a crime is your point of view, to me it is doing what needs to be done to ensure my survival, although I do not usually feed on humans. Do not lecture me on your thermodynamics, if you had any clue to what you are talking about you would hypothesize that vampires have something in them that can convert something in blood to energy, you think just because it has no calories that conversions cannot be made to it? You have a lot to learn about the world you reside in boy.
Xavier
We live in a world of law. Regardless if you agree with the specifics or not you are bond to them just like the rest of us. Why should you be exempt.
On your second point I have to say, your condensation aside, you must know nothing about blood and thermodynamics. Let say for the sake of discussion that Vampires are real and they can convert blood to fuel for their bodies. The base material aka blood has almost no calories in it. Calories are energy. Converting something that has almost no calories into another doesn’t mean the end result will leave you with a net positive gain. In fact the opposite is true. When you convert any material into another you end up have less energy then when you began with. This is also a foundation law of the Universe and it can not be broken. So you are still left with almost no energy to run a body. Hence you are left with no energy to do work or in another word you starve to death.
So I maintain my original question how can a vampire exist if they violate a law that can not be broken.
These are going in reverse chronological order.
Mike- um, whaaaaaaaat? In other words, this sciency stuff is confusing. And what is thermodynamics? If you don’t want to tell me, can you tell me what story you heard about this on?
Xavier- that was a really long comment. And confusing. “I would like to answer some of your questions so here goes” and then “so a bunch more questions firstly”. Don’t mean to sound too grammatical but this doesn’t make sense. Are you responding to another posting/comment from somewhere else?
Mark- did you choose the title for this? Because I know it was originally a comment from Samantha the real vampire. How do you go from talking about that to what you studied as a…………what did you call it again? Who is the “you” you are addressing? Or was it addressed in general? I don’t know because I did not read the original comment on Samantha the real vampire. And who were or are your “teachers”? And what do you mean by “my teachers will kill me”?
Are you using that figuratively or will they really kill you? This may sound stupid and you can call me unobservant but I can’t tell. Are you a vampire? I can’t find or identify any “hints” that say you are or aren’t. And when I first saw this title I was like “isn’t it the other way around?” And don’t take this the wrong way but I noticed you havent commented once on anyone’s comments. Sorry if I use quotes, and, and but too often but I just have a lot of questions all the time. You don’t have to answer but it would be nice if you did. Thanks. ^,.,^
Aquamarine – here you go and I have to say the foundation of wisdom is a question.
This information that I was talking about above is the foundational laws of the universe that govern everything from atoms to tree to people to stars to the entire universe.
thermodynamics – I found the information pretty easily accessible. Meaning it isn’t written for the ivory tower egg-heads.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_of_thermodynamics
Conversion of one material into another – this was much more brainac but its a good intro.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_energy
Mike,
I am not bound by your law because even if I was caught who’s to say a human could even hold me? A cell is mere child’s play for me to break or pick, if I do not want to be caught I won’t be its that simple.
And you just answered your own problem, blood can be converted but it is true that the energy output is less and that is why you need more quantity, therefore we drink more than a cup of blood, please, do not post such idiocy for me, you assumed I don’t drink enough blood or drink a mere cup a day, this isn’t so, I drink a lot of blood every day and I store some within the confines of my living area. In truth, by trying to disprove me you are providing the answers to what you are in essence trying to disprove.
Xavier -
So what your saying is that you are above the law. Interesting…
On your second point, you by your previous statement that a cell couldn’t hold you, I would assume you have super human strength. To bend the iron you would have to exert a tremendous force. Something on the order of 3000 lbs per square inch. In all likelihood you would need to exert something on the order of 6000 lbs since the structures tend to be lattice. I am now assuming that your bones are not made of calcium because they would shatter. To get the energy you would need out of blood to do that you would need appropriately 60 gallons on the low end to move the bars 1 inch. Hardly a lot of space to escape. Also that is the energy contained in 60 gallons of blood to just move the bars and not to do anything else like live. Remember everyone blood is mostly salt water. To the other part of picking the lock these doors are electronically controlled with no access point on the outside of the frame. You can’t pick them.
I assume your daily intact of calories are appropriate to humans which is 2000 calories. To get 2000 calories out of blood you would need to drink about 20 gallons. The salt content in your blood would be some so massive that your inside would be literally caked with salt in a day.
How do you ex-spell all that salt. Pissing and sweating would never remove all that salt in fact it only removes a small percent of the salt in your body.
I have to say if you think your a vampire then at least think it threw when responding to questions. I am not saying you don’t think you are I am saying it is impossible to be a vampire. At the end of the day the mechanics just don’t work when you think it threw.
There are real monsters in this world who kill and destroy human life. Unfortunately it is humans doing it to others.
Though I do love reading the stories.
Mike,
A cell would not hold me this is true, but once again you jump to conclusions, if I wanted to, I could bend the bars yes, and I do not care to get into the mechanics with you about that I would rather leave correcting you to a minimum seeing as how your just going to go and find more facts about human anatomy and not vampire anatomy so correcting you further is a waste of time and words.
On your salt theory, once again I do not care to correct you on vampire anatomy so do not ask me to as you will only make a pointless refute based on human anatomy.
Once again you use human anatomy to explain vampire anatomy.
And now I have to say if your going to try and disprove a vampire after I told you in a previous post that vampire bodies work differently than humans do then maybe you are the one that needs to think yours through because at the end of the day you are using human anatomy to explain vampire anatomy which doesn’t quite fit if you could take the hint from my other responses. And I would agree that there are real monsters in this world that kill and destroy human life but let me amend that for you, it is ignorance like what you have posted here partied with that kind of thinking and talking that provoke humans killing other humans.
Xavier -
Then explain to me how your mechanics work. You have a lot of critism yet you have gIven no details. If you want to prove your alledged status as a vampire then fully explain one aspect of vampires. I am getting my PHD so trust me I can keep up. You pick the topic tell all of us how it works in detail and I will concede that you are in fact a vampire.
hello xavier..
how are you??
are u really a vampire??
but i hope that u r a kind vampire.
another thing, does a vampire has the feeling of love??
Sharm_gal,
I am fine, I am really a vampire.
I don’t believe in hurting others without a cause so I guess you can say I am on what humans perceive to be a righteous path.
We feel love, but not outside what we consider to be home whether it be a coven or a regular house. We are taught to resist such emotions as they tend to get in the way of our judgment and life.
Mike,
First off, your calculations for blood to energy conversion is accurate for a human conversion resource but vampires have an enhanced natural conversion component built in to their bodies from “birth”, it amplifies the energy produced by blood high above that of a regular human or anything that could convert blood to energy, so to get 200 calories taking a random piece of math from you, I would need to drink about 2-3 liters of blood and that usually lasts me about 1-2 days, aside from that we vampires though not able to consume human made drinks or food, we can consume water and that is one way we can rid the salt buildup, you see, when a vampire is “born” the disease known by humans as vampirism bonds and evolves and changes our organs to better adapt to things, one could say it is a miracle of evolution of sorts. Also, excess amounts of water as you can imagine are not enough, so like I said our bodies changed and evolved from the disease, our bodies can remove up to 80% of the salt, the excess water removes 10%, and the other 10% is worked out through the hunt.
And on the cell bar bending thing, although it might be hard for you to believe, our bones are 2-3 times thicker than that of a regular humans and that helps us to not break our legs after falling good distances and for when we need to fend off attackers if need be, if a human hits another human with a metal pipe usually the human who got hit will have his arm broken thicker bones help in that type of scenario.
Besides, I should have chose my words about apprehension more carefully, I should have said I would never get caught, and if I did feed on a human I wouldn’t kill them, I am not the type of vampire that will drink someone dry after feeding, I am grateful to the one I feed from because whoever it was has provided me with the energy to survive and that is more than enough reason for me to let that person live.
Oh and I am sure you can agree that when you really think about it, laws are built around a point of view, they make a very fine line between what they perceive to be good and evil, when in fact good and evil do not truly exist, they are points of view and are in truths to the eyes of each and every one of us.
Hi Xavier,
I was always fascinated by vampires and thought you’ll to be legendary. I thought it was not possible to come in contact with one of your kind as your coven tries to be secret and hidden. I never thought that I could actually come across replies posted by the vampire himself on a net blog. So right now I am having a real strange feeling that whether to really believe that I have just read a reply posted by a vampire who says to be 148 years old. If it is true then I consider myself fortunate coz I have always wanted to interact with one of your kind.
xavier…hi again
sorry for asking this, but do vampires have religion? just curious..
how old are u? when is your bday??
so vampires dont fall in love huh? what if he or she falls in love? is it a sin?
xavier…is this your real name?
you sound like a nice guy.. im also curious, can u appear anywhere u want to?? i mean like across the ocean or in various countries?
can u read mind?
what do u think samantha the real vampire? are u both friends?
regards, my dear
xavier…
where r u? r u busy or something? can’t wait to receive comment from u…
Xavier is away right now, I am taking over his questions as best I can, I am sure he will be back soon though it is unpredictable if he will return soon or not.
to Sharm_Gal
Vampires usually do not have religion, living forever tends to make them renounce their religion becuase they feel rejected and what not. Xavier is 148. His birthday is in August. If vampires were to fall in love it is not a sin. I would just call him Xavier. Appear? like teleporting? that is not possible for vampires, he must travel. He cannot read minds. The last 2 I cannot answer.
Hello Hekter….
thanks alot for your reply.
Are you both brothers? i mean u and xavier…
how old are you?
If u dont mind me asking, why vampires cant read mind? in most movies, vampires can read other’s mind and they can appear anywhere they wanted to, right? Sorry if im asking silly ques…
u take care, Hekter
This is very indepth guys and gals! I have def learned a great deal about theories dealing w science w this last post! I feel that it would be very hard to live that long and be productive and be able to feel a connection to a faith that is forever changing and evolving. However, I believe that if you were a vampire that perhaps you would carry your own form of faith,just like we all do in this journey. So no matter what your faith or religion is or isn’t, there has to be a base from which your belief was started. By living the experiences you each have lived you have all choosen your own personal walk.(Path) and so w this being said: yes, each of you and I myself have our own beliefs and perhaps religions.
Hekter/Xavier
In the last argument between Mark and Xavier I would have to say that Xavier makes a great point(Whether he is real or not* But I think your the real deal…I can feel the depth of what you say therefore I know your not someone pretending to be what you truely are…A Vampire*)and if its not to much to ask I would enjoy it if you told me about yourself and your “conditon” if that is an exceptable term (Because I don’t believe in Good or Bad…only necessary/Sane)…Thank You
P.S-I can keep up with what you are saying for being 15-17 years old so please don’t hold back
Christian,
I was never argueing with Xavier.
Aquamarine,
I don’t have time to post on Vampire Truth every day, I work for a living. I am not a vampire. I am human. I did not choose to have what I spoke about posted as titled stories. I came to vampire truth seeking a being that could be considered a vampire. The coment regarding did I choose to post these coments as a complete story, well ask Vampire Truth adminstrator. I did not chose to turn this into a story. They were initally posted from Samantha the real vampire.
I will not tell you who my teachers were. Yes, I was threaten with death. However this particular being saw to that I would not be harmed. He knew my grandfather. I was being taught in the 1980′s and they were the ones that believed in vampires not me. They did everything to convince me vampires were real. I thought it was nonsense until I met a being that could be considered a real vampire that was working with them. I am much older now. As for my teachers, I will tell you they were using training facilities in the United States but they were based in Europe.
Vampire Truth Administer chose to post these as stories with headers, Trained as a Vampire Hunter, Do Vampires have souls, can Vampires die of Starvation and the difference between half and full blood vampires.
These beings are real. You don’t have to apologize.
Mike
Real beings like these don’t go to the bathroom. I have no idea why. And the one I met just ment to simplify thing so that I would understand.
Everyone else,
I suggest that you all remain sceptical. However, I have met a real one believe or don’t. They do have some characteristics of those in fiction but they are unpredictable and that makes them dangerous. Some can communicate with telepathy, they drink blood, they are very strong.