Vampirism is a disease unlike any other it feels unnatural and has properties that make themselves manifest physically even before the transition. Vampirism is a mutation of a disease much like a combination of Poryphic Hemophilia and Rabies, but yet, it isn’t during the first stage of the disease contraction (1 of 3), the body feels tired constantly and weak much like that of a cold or flu. At stage 2 the skin becomes pale slowly until almost white, at this point the victim is highly vulnerable to anything sharp even a cut could kill them as the blood is so thinned, and at stage 3 the victim goes into a deathlike sleep for 2 days or more (it is different for some people, for me it was 2 days) after which the person awakens feeling hungry but the most remarkable part about that first waking breathe is hearing the world come alive in an array of sounds and smells unlike nothing anyone could ever experience in this lifetime. Of course the new vampire is going to find food only to realize normal food is almost toxic, it induces vomiting and dizziness. Consume too much of it and death by throat muscle constriction is almost immanent. After that if they haven’t discovered they are vampires they will because you are immune to sunlight like a normal person for about 18 hours so once they start feeling their skin starting to tingle and then sting they start piecing it together. After that they usually find somewhere remote or rarely looked to hide until dusk, vampires have an innate ability to sense other vampires so they will most likely seek one out for shelter as I did, once found they are usually housed outside the coven or community for a few months (I lived outside for almost 2 years) living on their own while they adapt to their affliction. Once the coven decides to accept them, they are asked to move into it and are told the rules of the coven:
General Rules of any Coven:
Rule 1: Never feed on humans unless you ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO
Rule 2: Never compromise the coven or community
Rule 3: Avoid public feeding
Rule 4: No outsiders are allowed to see the coven
Aside from these 4 most important rules each coven may vary in the next set of rules depending. A coven is a community of vampires and is more of a hierarchy than a democracy the highest vampire in the coven is the “elder” vampire and that means he or she is the oldest, wisest and strongest of everyone, there are others like him but the elder is elected based on his or her leadership skills. If the coven feels that one or more of their members are threatening the covens existence action may be taken and depending on the offence it can result in death or exile lasting anywhere from 10 to 300 years, if in the case the result is death it could be done 1 of 3 ways:
1. Death by beheading.
2. Death by the members of the coven drinking them dry. (being sucked dry of blood)
3. Death by impaling.
These punishment were learned and brought into effect from different cultures over the years. During the event of an exile the vampire is assigned a place in the world to live usually a place with no other vampires around and the exile is regulated by other vampires from time to time in the sense of “house calls.”
Vampires can be made by choice also known as humans wanting to be infected with the disease, or by breeding as humans do. If a vampire is conceived by breeding it will more than likely not have the pale skin so it will be able to travel in the daytime. If a person is bitten, they will experience the side effects mentioned above at the start. Since being bitten was already described I will go with the breeding, when vampires mate it has a rare chance less than that of a human to conceive a child, and in the event a child is going to be born it is carried within the mother for around 15 months after which the mother gives birth to a egglike cocoon, which is then either buried or put in the coven undercroft for 15 additional months, after that it is taken out and after a day usually a new baby vampire is born, it is a very weird process if I do say so myself, and when a human and a vampire mate it is usually a normal human birth but the child will have no visible vampiric properties other than longevity and superior senses like smell and hearing.
A vampire must feed to remain alive but they are not allowed to feed on humans unless it is absolutely necessary, instead they are urged to feed on animals like cattle, sheep, or pigs to name a few, and some vampires bring packs of blood like those used in hospitals for blood transfusions.
Closing Notes:
Vampires are not people who like to stand out and be noticed in public.
Vampires are social and calm but can have a very short temper.
Vampires are not beasts or demons or anything to be afraid of remember they were once human too.
Vampire society is highly secretive usually in plain sight but not obvious.
Comments: This is about as far as I will go in this in-depth explanation.
Written by Xavier, Copyright 2009 VampireTruth.com
that’s pretty cool to read.. I’m not sure if I believe in vampires or not, still, but the read really did get me thinking and open my mind a little more, and for that I thank you. I do have a question tho. Do you think you will go to heaven or hell when you die (are beheaded, etc), how do you die if not killed, and do you believe in an afterlife at all? And do you believe in an afterlife for your kind? Just curious.. I’m very interested in this.
So not only sunlight and wooden stakes kill vampires but ham sandwiches and Froot Loops are also fatal to them. Oh and why is it that you’d be here telling us this when these vampires are supposedly hiding from the human world?
Xavier,
Well done. I congratulate u on your work. Thank You for taking the time to post. This is something I find very enlightening & easy to accept as true. You title runs almost identical to the one I thought of… Overall good job. You’ve just opened up a new door of Acceptance. Be Proud. I can’t wait to read the responses.
Respect
I found this interesting, but im a bit confused. So your claimig your a vampire? They actually exist??
May I ask how exactly you became a vampire?
P.S. Rule number two you already broke
So are you saying You are a vampire
I’m very glad to learn of your existence.
I admire your boldness and kindness of revealing.
I’m a mortal, expected to live around 120 years if no freak accident involved by myself.
How interesting of you, I’ve never expected life forms like this.
I only know that vampire-ghosts existing in this world.
And some control the was-human ghosts, but they can be destroyed.
Never knew a life form already transformed during ‘human’ term.
I’m a person that approve the co-existing of all species, living or non-living including the genies, but should be in harmony.
I know the dimensions, the gods and the devils, and the afterworld for the dead, and the dimension of vanity (such as Bermuda Triangle) created by this world.
Do you know any or contacted or able to contact any of the kinds like fox-human or other non-human forms?
Do you have any thoughts of being mortal again?
Are you able to see or feel or talk to ghosts?
Sorry for so many questions. But I really have so so much.
I’m a learner and also a good listener
And how do you spend your leisure time?
If you are around 30 years of age, how can you spend the rest of your life without some human friends? You need the touch of the majority, however lonely in your own world.
I am here in this site trying to help the humans and ghosts to attain balance.
Never have imagined there is a species like yours in real life.
Xavier,
Do I or don’t I believe you, well that doesn’t matter. What matters is this article is amazing, I truly find this kind of stuff fascinating, and I enjoyed every single part of this article. Thank you for sharing, I’m sure you’ll have lots of fans.
Like I’ve said in another post I love your username.
Amatrix the title comparison is no coincidence, I am a vampire and I do not know what awaits me after death, immortality only means there is no limit on my age. I became a vampire when I was nearing my 21st birthday, I went to a night club/bar and met this beautiful girl, I offered her a drink and we got to talking eventually I walked her home and when we got there I passed out for some reason… When I awoke I felt the sensation of the first stage and a pain in my neck (no surprise there).
Ah yes the inevitable why would you tell us question, I am telling you because chances are you will never see a vampire in the real world and if I tell you on the internet it doesn’t make much of a difference.
This is extremely interesting and very enlightening. I’m glad you decided to write this after all.
your coven is weak and you are futile.
how dare you
what decade were u turned? because Xavier isn’t a name used very often in these later decades. sorry if I have Offended you.
Your theory on vampire formation is exceptionally interesting.
I’ve always been under the impression (illusion?) that the vampiric disease had died out….guess not.?
Jessie, I have a friend who’s son is called Xavier or it can be Javier, it’s a spanish name.
Jessie, I was stricken with Vampirism in 1882 at the age of 21 it was my birthday…
Alpha glad to see your still here, the disease has died out but vampires continue to live through the second formation mentioned above only a fraction come from the disease…
do you have a girlfriend/wife? Is she a vampire?
sounds alot like twilight to me, but thats just my opinion. other than that very interesting and i can’t believe you went through so much pain!
Xavier,
What a truly facinating story; but I must say that my heart goes out to you, for it seems like a lonely existance. I must ask, when you were transformed, did this woman give you the choice?
Vampella, you are so RIGHT isn’t amazing how many people claim to be vampires after that film! It’s the romance aaaawwwwwwwww now I really have to see the second part!
I don’t believe in vampires. It’s very interesting but I stick with what I believe.
But people do have a desease that drives them to (in the 1800s) drink blood. It causes the person to have very pale, almost transparent, complection because they can’t go outside. But the idea of vampires came from Vlad the Impaler. He was thursty for blood like my teacher said. A writer at the time was in Transylvania and had hurd a lot about this horrible man. So he had made up the idea of the first Dracula story.
That’s what I believe.
So vampires can live for thousands of years and die if they are in direct sunlight?
Dena
Actually, the myth of vampires has been around LONG before Vlad the Impaler. Check out my article, The Vampire Compendium.
http://www.trueghosttales.com/paranormal/the-vampire-compendium/
Fascinating article…I’ve only recently thought about vampires outside of the stereotype that I grew up thinking.
I’m not here to say whether this claim is true or not….just that it is obvious you know quite a bit on this subject. Forgive me if you’ve already said this somewhere else, as I haven’t read everything in here yet…..but were you interested at all in vampires before this happened to you? Or has it only been since then that you have come to know these things? I’m wondering what attitudes there were about vampires in the later 1800′s….and it doesn’t seem like you were given a choice….isn’t there something a bit unethical about that?
Jamie and Darkstarr,
It isn’t so lonely I have the company of animals, humans and well… you guys…
And no, she didn’t really give me a choice…
Yes, Vampires can die from sunlight assuming they weren’t made from vampire/human relationships, though the sunlight doesn’t make them sparkle like in twilight which was utterly horrible and butchered vampires completely.
A vampire can stay in sunlight for a maximum of 5 mins before burning to death, and it isn’t a fiery death it is because the skin gets scorched and blood starts to boil from the burning heat.
Xavier,
It just seems because you must live in “secrecy” that it would be lonely. Do you interact with “mortals” (for lack of a better word) and if you do, isn’t it hard to constantly develop relationships only to see them end. I just feel as if your life is full of loss, and that makes me so sad for you. I hope you are happy.
do you have a hard time not drinking the blood of those around you, kind of like a craving?
I just read your article and to be quite honest, it seems unreal that I found something that is a reality that films, myths and folklore state isn’t.
If you don’t mind me asking, are vampires confined to on part of the world or are they hidden in several places of the world? Or is this something even you do not know??
And also if you don’t mind my asking, you say you were bitten in 1882, at the age of 21, Now I realise that now makes you 148? If that is correct, do you look 148 or do you look a younger age?
Xavier,
I’m sorry, I forgot to ask, if she had given you the choice, do you think you would have chosen this life?
wow,we learn something new every day i believe you because i know anything is possible you just have to believe.i would like you to answer one question though,if you were bitten 1882 that would make you a 148,do you feel you have lived a long time ?you must feel lonely at times.i hope you live a happy and fulfilled life all the best.x
Um well, I knew this old lady once and her grandson had always said that he had to see something to believe in it, and the old lady said sometimes you just have to believe to see it. So, do you just believe his story?
Karen M.
No. I don’t.
Xavier,
I know you have said you are not lonely, but if you were would you consider turning somebody, as in a partner or some companionship.
I don’t know if it is possible for you to turn anyone but if it were would you?
If you would and could – Have you ever before?
Thanx
thanks Bracket ;=)
I’ll read it.
Xavier,
This is a most interesting story indeed!
Please return back very soon and tell us more!
I do know that all “Rumors/Myths/Urban Legends” has a spice
of truth to it! Vampire stories have passed through centuries, and
are told about in every country, so there must be some truth to it!
How can the whole world all make up the same story….?
I think that Vampires must exist, and are real as Ghosts or Demons.
Rachel
Xavier-
thank you for your story. I’m not sure wether or not I believe in vampires or not but I always keep an open mind. If u are a vampire I hope it’s a good life for you.
Cool story. If this is true why don’t you take a photo of a vampire and send it to us. Sorry but i really want to see a vampire though. Anyway the information about them is nice. thank you for this amazing story.
I do interact with humans and I do not looka day over 24, It is like I age once every 40 years, And it is better to be lonely than to have a relationship and see it end.
I do not drink human blood unless I am somewhere other blood sources aren’t available, I do not have a wife and I would only give people the choice to become a vampire if I liked them enough and it is always a choice, but sadly your immune system often rejects the disease so that is the main reason I do not have a spouse and I am 148 and it seems like forever the most painful part of my existence was having to watch from the shadows as everyone I knew died… I sat back and watched the life I knew fade into nothingness…
And J, vampires are allover the world in many places and sometimes even in plain sight though, some things are not what they appear a cellar in a department store could very well be a hidden entrance into a coven but I will not be any more specific than that.
Anonymous vampires do not exactly show good on film, it appears abstract and you can’t really make much of it even if I did take a photo of myself.
Xavier-
It took a lot of guts to come into the light so to speak. Especially considering you are apart of an old world coven. It is true that we all have different stories and different experiences. Sadly yours was a truely painful one, while mine was never even known to me. To me it was everyday life. You know it was just the way it was. Until I realized that I was different than the others they all feared me for some strange reason and I have just resciently found out why. I am what is known as a hybreed. If you are what you say you are you know what I am and before anyone jumps to conclusion no I am not saying that I am a mix-breed. I am a hybreed. However, Xavier this will be my only contact with you, because I am here strictly to say be careful. You know the elders do not like public attention. Yes I knew you a long time ago. So please do not try and find me, Pandora is not my real name so do not go around asking for me by that name. I am not the sweet little inocent that you knew, I am something else all together. Once again old friend be careful and stay save.
Ok. This thread’s getting weird.
Yes, the elders would surely have me killed for it… they know where the spot of my exile is, since you know me, what do you suggest? If they do decide it will be during the daytime which gives me about 3-5 days before they raid my exile to kill me, IF they rule to do so, it is hard to tell because I was a main source of their information.
by the way, how exactly did you find me if you know me?
My sweet Xavier,
Do you not remember me? I was the one that held your hand through your change. I was the one that helped you learn how to servive. I was and always will be the only friend in our dark world that truely understands why our stories need to be told. My only suggestion is to locate a new modern coven. Then and only then can you be safe from your old coven.
Xavier,
Also, I never found you, you found me. You said yourself that we will seek out those of our own kind. Even if it is only through the internet. I must leave you now with only these few thoughts. It’s time I retire for the day. I hope to speak with you again soon.
Hey I guess there is a article here for all the Twlight lovers out there!
Well, in the event some of you think my above posts are me being stupid,crazy or otherwise, I am neither, Imade those 2 posts to see if he was lying obviously he was, he has clearly watched one too many vampire shows, I have made nothing public about any coven vampire elder or otherwise, and if he is a “hybreed” I tend to stay away from mutts or halfbreeds they are usually nothing but trouble…
so there were clubs/pubs in the 18 hundreds yeah?
WOAH.
Would it be weird if I said this is really cool!? True or not (I’d prefer to believe this was true and a lot of me actually does), this was awesome. I’d ask you questions but you seem so busy. Just– props, man. Let’s all live in harmony. OH WAIT ONE QUESTION– can vampires be hyper and giggly!? is that a stupid question ]: I.. just can’t imagine and giggly vampire.. ANYWAYS, GOOD LUCK. HOPE YOU DONT GET EXILED. I MEAN THAT.
Oh.. hey, sorry for being too enthusiastic back there. I really do appreciate your post and I hope everything works out for you.
Pandora, obviously he doesn’ remember you!
Hi Karen, the article is not about Twilight and so far I have already rejected several comments about the movie/books
I have approved your comment and added my own here just to let readers know. This is not about Twilight and so if you sit and type out a comment about that it will not be published. If ANYONe would like to read about and/or discuss Twilight go to http://www.talkparanormal.com/thread-2044.html OR http://www.talkparanormal.com/thread-1511.html as this is NOT the place for it.
I never believed that this article was about Twilight, it just seems so far-fetched and also I only learned about Twilight on this site!
no one get’s my sense of humor!
Molly, there have been clubs and pubs just about as long as there has been humans.
Karen, I didnt think that you believed this was about Twilight at all. I just took advantage of your comment to let everyone know. Believe me several comments have been deleted because I do not want this to turn into a discussion about that as I am sure Xavier would agree.
I believe that anything is possible.
Xavier… I have many many many questions to ask you, but where would I begin…hmmm
Xavier says: On Do Vampires Exist…
“if you have lives for 147 years wouldn’t you have a short temper also? ”
“if you spent the first 20 years of your life as a human and then suddenly had to live away from everyone and watch everyone you cared about die before you while you remained alive while having a life during the nighttime, wouldn’t you have a short temper also?”
Xavier says: Through the Eyes of a Vampire…
” I became a vampire when I was nearing my 21st birthday, I went to a night club/bar and met this beautiful girl,”
“Jessie, I was stricken with Vampirism in 1882 at the age of 21 it was my birthday…”
“I do not have a spouse and I am 148 and it seems like forever ”
I enjoyed your story Xavier…But I’m Sorry…Your comments just don’t match up. You claim to be 147 years of age On Vampires Do Exist…then you claim to be 148 here. You said you were NEARING your 21st Bday when you were turned…Then you state It was Your
21st Bday?? What is it? I’m not attempting to be rude but come on it just seems like your trying to make a fool of everyone here. Forgive me but the simple excuse of Your Memory failing you would not be an appropriate reason for the mistakes in your “Story”.
Take Care
vampires dont excist.u have no EVIDENCE LIKE PICTURES OR VIDEOS 2 PROVE IT. you problaby have mental issues. DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING U READ I COULD EASLY SAY IM A VAMPIRE. I BET HE IS GOING 2 ERASE THIS COMMENT CUZ HE KNOWS IM RIGHT.
Dracula is right xavier u have no proof of being a vampire or how you turn into a vampire
I can 100% agree that Twilight is not welcome in this post… I do not sparkle in the sunlight I burn!
dracula =-)
That is ridiculous, why would I delete a comment because I know you are right? Why would you think that I would have to agree with every comment? This website is actually a community and as such there are lots of different opinions and viewpoints. In the future please do not call people names or your comments WILL be removed. I started to delete your comment because of your name calling, although I did delete the name you called the author of the story. I dont have the time to go through editing comments so that they can be approved. If you can’t make your comment without calling others names then don’t waste your time writing them.
By the way, you think videos or pictures could prove Vampires are real? How old are you?
Also twilight and dracula =-) appear to be the same person
!
I can understand the one person getting confused with your dates and numbers but the whole one year thing shouldnt be hard to possibly think out.
could you Xavier be making all this up, Sure you could, easily, I mean it is the internet.
But you do know too much. You know that vampires can just know when someone else is one even if they dont realize it.
Also that yeah, we can say we are one and not get in trouble because well…how will anybody find us?
Yes I understand people who are saying you can make yourself believe anything. When it comes to the brain power I’m the one usually telling all my friends that you can make yourself sick or even pregnant if you believe truly that you are.
But seriously, you can tell if a person is an amateur vampire, or a real one.
Do you see many people staring across a football field glued to somebody that they don’t even know but can’t release the stare.
Or even do you see your best friend completely zoned out but there’s ten thousand things going on, and they just have a different look than before in their eyes?? (something like that, that’s a hard example to explain)
I believe they are real, and when i read the words “they aren’t real” the only words jumping in my head without even reacting or expecting them to cross are “HA seriously you think so.”
Me personally i do understand these are your thoughts, I respect that with all my heart. I do not mean any offense for the short sentence above i just thought I would let you know what runs in my head.
Way to go, maybe he should come meet me in person if he is so hellbent on me proving myself, I could show him what hell really is!
Is twilight mental? I posted this topic explaining 2 ways that vampires are formed and how I turned into a vampire? Please learn to read child…
Karen,
That is a possibility. Once a human has been changed they have a tendancy to bury the life they had as a human and they forget everything up until someone forces them to remember. That maybe why his story is inconsistant.
Xavier,
Do you realize how much that hurts that you would call me a mutt, a halfbreed, but most of all you think I am a “he”. My dear you are saddly mistaken on all three accounts. I was born the way I am. Both my parents were human. I am a complete freak of nature and that is why I was kicked out of your beloved coven and why I now live in exile. I thought it would actually be nice to come out of the dark and speak with someone that might actually remember me, but boy was I wrong. As usual. I thought that you might have remembered that little redheaded girl that was always there with you, even when you suppost to be alone. I thought that you were still my friend. I’m sorry if I have inturrupted your strole down memory lane.
Amatrix, you do realize that I WAS 147, recently had a birthday though I do not much count birthdays as “happy” anymore, nobody really cares because everyone who DID care is long gone…
I had posted this on the day of my birthday without knowing it so in a nutshell, I have too many things to worry about than birthdays that nobody cares about anyway not like I should be celebrating it at this age anyway, I was born August 15 1861.
Xavier, I don’t get the part of you watching everyone you know die, wouldn’t they ask you why you never age? You said that you watched from the shadows, that would mean that you never had a real relationship with these people cause, you had to break off contact once, they started to get older and you didn’t, and is all of this happening in the U.S. or in Europe? This is more like that Brad Pitt movie, where he tells his story of how he became a vampire to the journalist. I don’t believe you, but I’ll give you credit for imagination!
P.S. rule # 3 of the coven, says avoid public feeding, what if you can’t avoid it!
lol
You’re not a vampire.When the whole vampire thing is over, you’ll look back and be embarassed about this. Trust me, when I was your age (which I’m guessing is about 13), I thought I was a Spice Girl. Same thing, different fads. As long as you’re having fun, though, who am I to judge?
LOL just this once I have to applaude Jamie, SO RIGHT!
Author: Xavier
Comment:
barb,
I have already told you all my age, I am 148 I posted my story on the day of my birthday, didn’t tell you all because I myself didn’t know being alive for 148 years you kinda don’t tend to remember meaningless things like that… But for the record, August 15, 1882 is me
Author: Xavier
Comment:
I had posted this on the day of my birthday without knowing it so in a nutshell, I have too many things to worry about than birthdays that nobody cares about anyway not like I should be celebrating it at this age anyway, I was born August 15 1861.
Author: Xavier
Comment:
I had posted this on the day of my birthday without knowing it so in a nutshell, I have too many things to worry about than birthdays that nobody cares about anyway not like I should be celebrating it at this age anyway, I was born August 15 1882.
FYI:
When you post 3 different comments. WE STILL get email notifications even though you make a mistake.
You changed your Bday 3 times…Can you just be honest…I mean I don’t know many people actually believe you, but your inconsistancy is letting them down. Forgive me, I have nothing against you & I’m willing to believe you…I just want accurate stories.
Take Care
Karen – here is what happened – Xavier contacted me to let me know that he had mistakenly typed in the wrong year and asked me to edit the comment to show the correct year.
Xavier,
How much blood would a vampire need? What amout would sustain the hunger, and how long could a vampire go without feeding?
Which taste suits you best…Human Blood Or Animal?
Do Vampires ever feed off eachother?
Xavier,
It makes me sad that you feel as if no one cares about your birthday! I just want to wish you a HAPPY Belated Birthday! No matter WHAT the age, every day that we are on this earth should be a celebration and Birthday’s are no exception!
Xavier…..
You stated that you were born August 15, 1861.
This is a very interesting year indeed!
Are you by any chance an American Vampire Xavier?
Because, if you are, then this means that you were born in the
same year and time to experience the “American Civil War”
first hand! Of course, I know that is an entirely different subject,
and I’m going off Topic here, but still very AWESOME, and so very
interesting to think about! The “American Civil War” started on
April 12, 1861.
The American Civil War (1861–1865), also known as the War Between the States and several other names, was a civil war in the United States of America. Eleven Southern slave states declared their secession from the U.S. , etc.
Anyway, my question is … Were you by any chance an African Slave, or African American Slave, at that time? Were you perhaps a White Slave Owner? Were you a Soldier in the War?
If you were truly living at that date and time, then this all would mean that you experienced it all, (because you were actually a part of that life time) and you saw it all first hand!
I’m very interested in The “American Civil War”, or any History, for that matter. But to
actually meet someone who really lived through it all, and who is yet alive to this date!
This is simply AMAZING !!!
Rachel
He couldn’t have been any of that cause at the end of the war he would of only been 4 yrs old
Yeah Karen … You are RIGHT
I was never in the states during that period, I was in a different part of the world, I came to the states in 1976 if you must know, so I never actually experienced the war, sorry for the dissapointment.
Amatrix,
A vampire would need enough blood to fill a thermus, a vampire can go for 4 days without feeding, we also die of starvation too, animal blood is all I have ever known, and to Karen M, rule 3 has only one exception, and that is when there is no other source of sustinence around.
Also Karen, everyone I knew or loved thought I was kidnapped after they couldn’t find me I was presumed dead, so I watched from afar as my loved ones gre old and died the most painful part was watching my two sibling die aswell.
Darstarr, thank you.
Very controversial stuff here. Xavier I would like to thank you as well as others who have commented for keeping this on topic and for not getting too angry and argumentative with your words.
Xavier,
Do you have any hobbies?
Regards,
Lina
Xavier,
Do you work? How do u pay your bills? Do you have a car? Can u fly or swing from trees? Do you live in a hole under the ground? What Country were you born? I can go on forever…. I’m assuming Xavier isn’t your real name.
Xavier, I’m not trying to be mean, I’m just curious. Remember I’m the one that loves that name Xavier.
I find it very sad about the life you would have to live… regarding geogirl and the questions she had, i’m sure living in the shadows, feeding off of animals is stressful, not knowing how and when you are going to die (not to mention IF) and also what happens after your death, if anything. I wouldn’t be too concerned about a home, car, and all that. I would still be in shock.. Yes, even after more than 100 years living with rare aging, and all that comes with vampirism, I would still be in shock and in a pretty constant state of depression…..i hope you’re not, Xavier…
i apolagize 4 my rude comment i was being ignorant and had a really bad day. please accept my apology xavier =~)
Lina, Geogirlforever and Jamie,
My work is during the day, I do not need a car nor want one, my work is from home, I do not fly or swing from trees, my place of birth would be Cottbus Germany, it is almost on the border of Poland, and on a side note vampires are not “demons” or “evil” they are just people who have been stricken with a disease that has rarely been seen and probably never been studied, we are still people so I would just shun it when the church says we are condemned to hell for being foul beasts in truth it isn’t for them to decide it is for God and ourselves.
dracula =-), apology accepted
This is crazy. U say this happened after u left a bar. Have u stepped foot in one since then ? Can u evn consume alcohol beverages? I dnt mean to be too curious. But what about ur sex life? Do u have one as a vampire?
Xavier,
I must apologize. I thought that you were an old friend I had years ago. However, I learned earlier this evening that he has passed on. I thought that you were because of how close your story was to his, but once you had insulted me I thought to seek out my friend. I did this simply to see what was wrong because my old friend was always a happy person and all I am reading from you is anger. However even though this is true he was much more of a gentleman than you even could be. All you had to do was tell me that you did not know me, but instead you decided to play games. What you thought were lies were never meant for you. Enjoy your made-up fantasy.
Xavier, How did you find this site, were you looking for other vampires??
Xavier, u still haven’t answered a question of mine….
Is Xavier your real name or lastname or just a username?…. I’m curious.
Please reply.
Xavier…
I never asked you about your ‘special powers’. I simply just wanted to know what it is that you like to do for fun
Regards,
Lina
Pandora, he’s angry because he thought people would be impressed and excited that he’s a vampire, but the vast majority of us realize he’s a little boy playing a game. Notice people get most defensive of what they know is true?
Pandora,
Not to be rude, but does your last post mean that you also live this made up fantasy? Your first few posts to Xavier implied that you too were a vampire? I’m confused.
DarStarr
I was about the ask that very same question myself!
She’s mad cause he wouldn’t play the game with her!
Great minds think a like I guess! LOL!!!
Note to all – We have Discussions about Vampires going on in our forum ~ http://www.talkparanormal.com/forum-73.html. Head on over and see what’s going on.
You guys have mood swings WAY TOO often it actually makes me laugh how you can agree with me one night then the next night completely disagree and flame me, get aholdof what you wanna do because you can’t do both for very long before I stop answering you altogether.
Geogirlforever, Xavier isn’t my real name, it is my screen name, my real name I don’t think I am gonna put here…
vanessa87, you do realize bars are active at night right? I do visit bars, and sometimes during the year more often than usual, just because there isn’t anything better to do.
I’ll ask my question again, as I think it got overlooked…..what was the attitude of vampires in the latter part of the 1800′s? Were they taken seriously in your part of the world? Just wondering.
Scarygirl67, sorry I overlooked my mistake, anyway, vampires weren’t really well known in germany when I was there, but they were thought to be real and very much around england and transylvania. So no, they were not taken seriously and through what I have seen in most people it has diminished even more since then…
I will not be here to answer some questions for a bit, I am taking a trip to Maine for a while, going to look at real estate property. I will answer any questions left here when I get back in about 4 days.
Xavier you left out the detail that two humans can birth a vampire and that child has all a purblood vampires strengths and weakness plus they can only have blood i know this because i am a vampire born this way and i couldnt do anything at school that involved going out side
Xavier,
I really didn’t want to know your real name anyways, to be quite honest with you I actually don’t care…. I just like your username I have a reason for that which I will not mention here and no it’s not my name.
I’ve been reading all the posts on this site and u just answered a question that I had that’s all. It’s in regards to your other so called vampire friends that u haven’t seen in years, one wonders how the heck they would know it’s you if that isn’t your real name and how would they ever know that’s your username if they haven’t seen u in years. ???
I know it’s the internet and one wouldn’t be providing their personal information on here. Kind of makes sense.
Anyways thanks for the great laugh…. because I do find all this kind of hilarious.
Keep Smiling….
Xavier,
Please don’t let the nay-sayers get to you. This forum is for all sorts of opinions and beliefs, and there will never come a time that everyone will believe and agree on the same thing. If that were the case, it would be a perfect world!
I hope your trip went well and that you found what you are looking for.
Please don’t feel attacked. Let them voice their opinions, it keeps things interesting, and the Caretaker is awesome at removing any vulgar or nasty comments!
Ok, I am back from my trip and now, on to the replies!
Geogirl, I believe your responding to me responding to your question there when you asked me if my name here was my real name and also, if your mentioning Pandora, he doesn’t know me at all… and I have my doubts on light…
DarStarr, thanks, it doesn’t really get to me that they choose to down me, what DOES get to me is the fact that they ask me a question and then turn around and completely insult me for answering to the best of my ability their question, and THEN turning around and asking another…
Xavier
I find you fascinating.
Bracket,
I been reading your posts in these forums you claim to be open minded and a beleiver, Yet you shoot down everything, everyone hast to say like your a superior intellectual. I don’t like that this is a spiritual forum, yet you try to add a scientific conlcusion to everything, Which begs the question why a skeptic is on this sight.
I for one beleive in vampires and all creatures. Before they said there wasnt a cyclops and guess what they found one near greece i read it a long time ago.
You say you were made a vampire in the 1800s?
But you also said it was in a bar/nightclub…bar maybe but night club?? They didn’t even have electricity in the 1800s!
You’re lying. If you state vampirism is merely a disease of some sort and is not dissimilar to other diseases then it would not affect your photos in any way. Secondly the rumours on the notion that sunlight burnt a vampire to death was only first described within the last century due to a novel. It has been recorded that vampires have been seen during the daylight throughout the ages.
Lovecub
It’s always good to have a healthy dose of skeptism, eitherwise every sound is a ghost, every sick person is a vampire and every animal mauling in the news is a werewolf attack.
Time and time again has shown us that following Occams Razor, the simplest explanation is always the answer, has been beneficial to our psychological evolution. Getting away from the belief that disease is caused by vampirism has led us to medical explanations.
I’m not saying that i outright don’t believe in vampires but i severely question when somebody comes on here claiming to be one. I talk about it in this article.
http://www.trueghosttales.com/paranormal/to-people-claiming-to-be-vampires/
Bracket,
I know everything that goes bump in the night isnt a ghost nor is every sick child a vampire. Buuut I do beleive there are such things someone would probaly come on here it would be the safest way to reveal themselves.
Yeah I read your article.
Lovecub
It’s actually very easy to track someone on these sites. I have a friend who could find you in no time, if i wanted him to. They say they don’t want to reveal themselves because of people wanting to hurt or conduct experiments on them, but the people who have the resources to do that would obviously have the resources to find them and if these people are what they say they are, they’d know that.
meow, you call me a liar but if you notice when I said that I put it as: night club/bar because some people don’t know a bar unless you say night club, I have met peoplelike that, hell, you could even call it a damn pub for all I care it doesn’t matter and if you want to bring lighting into this, thats just called assuming the unsaid, i never mentioned lights…
Bracket, you have said that same sentence time and time again, if you say it can be done, then do it or shut up I have had a long day without much sleep, so unless you can pinpoint me right now, shut up… seriously quit acting so childish.
Bracket
Yes i know I but it is very illegal in some states a invasion of privacy. And I didnt mean it like that I meant like you can say anything you want online cause noone knows who you are.
Xavier
Calm down, i wasn’t even talking to you. Don’t take the fact that people don’t believe your stories out on me.
Lovecub
Yes it is illegal but who are the “vampires” going to complain to?
This is getting boring! Xavier, when people have stopped commenting on your story are you still going to come to this site, and comment on other stories?
Bracket,
We need guys like you. The enforcement like the police.
But Xaviour is not the one you should persecute to death.
You have made your point. He is already in the culdesac.
Leave him, with some dignity.
There are many that deceive the public openly with intentionally false pictures and alleged evidences.
Those are the ones you should kill.
To equip you with some knowledge.
Ghost usually does not have the resolution as human.
Their usual form of appearance is just like hot air rising from the ground under a scorching sun,
and even thinner in density like the white-noise, sometimes seen sometimes don’t.
A rash human will find it hard to see its existence.
The following videos, paste it, and add the necessary letters at front.
These are safe videos. The ones with DNA-attached I will not endanger the public.
youtube.com/watch?v=RwoiEAPmEnI (at time frame 1:16-1:28 there is a ghost, female, around 60 years of age,
with only the head, talking on the floor, revealed at the side of the woman’s left leg on the carpet. You first find its mouth, which is blackened and moving, caused by lips movement while talking. And then you’ll identify the face. If you can see this,
see also this side of the carpet, the large area is moving. These are the molecules of the body of the ghost.) Now you know how a poor soul is desperately to deliever its message without people understanding.
youtube.com/watch?v=vciA9-01M88 (enlarge it to see. there is a ghost in crouching positon, resting but
head pointing down in despair. He is on his knees with his arms straightened and supporting by fists down against the nearest rim of the big hole. At your left hand side is his feet. Your right hand side is his head. A poor soul indeed.
If you can see this, try to see also the big skull at the size of 4 human heads at the right hand side but outside of the big hole.
There are a few other ghosts that flashes its vague appearances too in the water.
They are all the trapped souls in this dam.
But don’t discuss any of this to the owner of this video, she may delete it in fear.)
youtube.com/watch?v=ZDK9XX_Aer8&feature=channel_page (provided is a fake. I believe the light should have reflected on the ghost’s head while it was crossing through, but it didn’t. And at the end that the ghost disappear,
unidentified spot light was seen. That represents bad editing)
youtube.com/watch?v=nTA-cCUMtAo&feature=related
(Demon howls like dinosaur or elephant. No. It’s just a poor soul repeatedly calling for help, help, help! However no one understands!)
Bracket
Head council or just fly threw the window and eat us who try to prey on them. I don’t think a real vampire would be scared of us humans anyhow I mean bracket you even said they probaly think of us as cattle so if they go to track one down they may eat them.
Xavier,
From your codes there hast to be a few bad apples right? The ones who don’t follow the rules? Just like humans right?
Xavier, you reply to the first comment my friend wrote about electricity (yes two of us wrote a small paragraph each). Yet you completely left an explanation to my part. Do enlighten me with your knowledge.
Sai Chan
I think you’re seeing what you want to see in those clips. It’s called pixelation, a pattern appears on the footage that wasn’t there when shot. Our eyes like to look for things familiar and when it sees the pixelation, it looks for something familiar that actually isn’t there.
Lovecub
If that’s the case then why are they hiding in the first place?
Karen M., I will still be here even after my post here dies, it isn’t the read that intrigues me, it is you all of you guys give me something to do in my life and if it means anything to you, slightly brighten my existence.
Lovecub, there will always be “bad apples” within everyone it is just a matter of having the right “push” to make you carry it out, prime example of what I am trying to say is, if you are married (this is for the guys) have you EVER considered murdering your wife? My guess is plenty of times, but have you ever carried it out? Of course not because at the end of the day our friends and family are all we really have to look forward to, and then there are the people who think this from time to time but then something happens and they get “pushed” over the edge and actually (god forbid) carry it out and actually kill their spouses. There is always the potential to be a “bad apple” you can’t just rule a few people out.
meow, please elaborate on what part of my knowledge you want to know I will answer to the best of my ability.
Bracket, this is THE LAST response I plan to give you because you are quite rediculous with “wanting” information it is like you want it only to reject it and therefore further responses to your comments is a waste of my time and I am pretty sure, everyone elses, we do not hide and if you had been reading along with the rest of the class instead of deviating as always you would have seen me say “we are usually in plain sight” that means we are around but your not looking hard enough, it is kind of like those pictures you find where you have to look “past” the original picture to see the airplane or something similar. Have fun in your little world Bracket.
bracket,
They probaly arent hiding.. they probaly are around us. They probaly look normal.
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If you state vampirism is merely a disease of some sort and is not dissimilar to other diseases then it would not affect your photos in any way. Secondly the rumours on the notion that sunlight burnt a vampire to death was only first described within the last century due to a novel. It has been recorded that vampires have been seen during the daylight throughout the ages.
This is my original comment that I would like to know your thoughts on. There is loads more I can write but I wish to know this first so I can elaborate further in response. I am not a sceptic that just tries to just disprove everything but I do not take a persons words as the blind truth. I think therefore I am. I know things.
Xavier,
You say you live in Germany, I just wanted to know if you were there during the holocaust. If so can you describe what it was like living during that horrible period in history?
ABE, I think we all know that this story isn’t true, but I think it’s going a little too far to bring up the holocaust, he wasn’t there and I don’t care to hear his invented stories on something as terrible as that. I’m not being mean and I know you just want him to prove it!
Lovecub
The fact that they are supposedly told to not say that they are vampires out in the open shows that they are hiding. This is the rules that X says the “covens” follow.
“Rule 1: Never feed on humans unless you ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO
Rule 2: Never compromise the coven or community
Rule 3: Avoid public feeding
Rule 4: No outsiders are allowed to see the coven”
It’s obvious that he’s saying they have to stay hidden in one form or another. So technically, they are hidden.
Xavier
If you look at the past comments in here, you’ll see that i have asked very few questions. If you really want to answer any questions by me go to my article “To People Claiming to be Vampires” and answer the questions there. You made some comments but it seemed like you were avoiding the questions that were actually in the article.
http://www.trueghosttales.com/paranormal/to-people-claiming-to-be-vampires/
Xavier, I like how you call Bracket childish as you mention that your tired and cranky. Sounds like you could use a nap! And we can’t all be 300 years old…
meow
” If you state vampirism is merely a disease of some sort and is not dissimilar to other diseases then it would not affect your photos in any way. Secondly the rumours on the notion that sunlight burnt a vampire to death was only first described within the last century due to a novel. It has been recorded that vampires have been seen during the daylight throughout the ages.”
That’s what i said in my article. I forgot about the pictures though. Good catch.
meow, I do not expect anyone here to accept my words, I only ask that they listen to them and hopefully take something away from here to ponder and think over I am not going to prove anything other than my knowledge and if people choose to accept it then I am glad, I do not appreciate the fact that people ask me questions and then turn around and insult me like Karen M. has been doing therefore I am not going to respond to her after a while if she keeps this up.
ABE, I would never post a comment about that dark period in history.
Xavier, I’m not insulting you.
Xavier, it still does not answer my question. One would take the assumption you are avoiding it. I understand that many may believe you are lying and even take it to a level of which they flat out say it but remember it is to be expected. I can understand though that it can get frustrating.
Also I know quite a bit of information regarding the ‘super natural’ however even with that I never have had the experience of seeing a vampire so therefore I am very questioning. I also know that one should be careful where one treads when entering the world that they know not of. Your not the only one apparently dancing a fine line, and no, I am not stating in any way that I am a vampire, just that there are some strange things out there.
Xavier
After most likely reading my comment on here, you go to my article and still don’t comment on it? I’m officially calling this a forfeit on your part.
meow, I think I get what you are asking, a vempire can last in sunlight, but not for very long because they will burn and if the “burning period” is extended they can very well die.
I hope that has answered it.
Karen M., 2 posts above the most recent one you did, you said
“This is getting boring! Xavier, when people have stopped commenting on your story are you still going to come to this site, and comment on other stories?”
then after I answered as usual,
“I think it’s going a little too far to bring up the holocaust, he wasn’t there and I don’t care to hear his invented stories on something as terrible as that. I’m not being mean and I know you just want him to prove it!” yes, I did cut out the first part because it wasn’t tied to what I am trying to explain
judging from these 2 comments, one right after the other, you asked a very good question, I acknowledged, then you turn around and to me and I am sure others “insult” me now insult doesn’t necessarily mean that your making hurtful jokes, it can also mean your turning around and acting along with the rest of the crowd to disprove me, truth is, opinion matters here not people willing to follow a crowd, I do believe in another post you said “my opinion matters too” if it does, why don’t you make your own crowd instead of being the follower.
and I already know there will be people who are skeptical, and I wil humor them for a brief period before ignoring their comments completely.
Xavier you never answered my ?’s =( I havent been rude and mean to you..
Xavier, I made it clear from the begining that I didn’t believe in vampires. Sure I asked some questions, but they were in no way rude or insulting. As far as me following the crowd, you don’t know me, I am very opininated on my own, I don’t need a leader in a clan or coven to tell me what to do! Also I’m sure it’s you who plays vampires on myspace, after I kicked your but today, I looked at your profile!!!!!!!!!! WOW .)
The sunlight myth only came around the last century due to a novel and never prior to that part in history.
You still have not answered the photography question. Please do not ask me to repeat it again, again, if you scroll up its there, twice. You constantly seem to never acknowledge it.
All of this is all from research and merely information I have uncovered and relay back to you.
Lovecub,
As far as I can see, you have only asked me one question and I answered it with a bunch of others, scroll up please it it one of my larger comments.
Karen M.,
Learn to read my full comments please and not just fregments, because if you did, you would have seen me say your questions are good, it is after I give you the answer thats when you crap on me.
meow,
I am sorry, I missed your second part way back there, as far as the photography goes, I can honestly not tell you why I do not show up well, I have taken photos of myself but instead of myself it is a whitish whispy cloud of some sorts… I cannot explain that I am sorry if this dissapointed you but as I am sure you already know there are alot of things we cannot explain.
Xavier, Well you know it’s kind of like when you’re reading a book, and it gets boring so you skim over or turn a few pages!
X
It would make it alot easier, and more clearer, if you expain the discrepincies mentioned in my article.
Karen M.,
If what you say is true, then you shouldn’t be here, if you can’t learn to read my response to YOUR questions, please refrain from asking them.
O.K., my work here is done, I managed to anger a vampire!
Xavier, Oh I see it now I am sorry. I think I get what your saying. :like you hold out til it makes you wanna snap I think maybe just maybe vlad tepes may be an example of a vampire who snapped.. I dunno I know they say he wasn’t a actual vampire but i kinda think he mighta been.
Wow, I just had a door to door Jahovas Witness…
I told him I do not caremuch for religion, and he told me and I quote “Your going to hell for not believing in our lord”
I simply told him see you there because you are now damned to hell also for breaking one of the ten commandments, and that would be Honor Thy Neighbor, he shut up and walked off…
I found that to be the highlight of my evening
Xavier – where did you get your version of the 10 commandments from? I am sure its a good idea but “Honor Thy Neighbor” is not one of the ten
Also, I know some Jehovah’s witnesses and they do not believe in Hell. Maybe they aren’t all the same in their beliefs.
HA# 9 thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor, ROCK ON CARETAKER!
P.S. That’s true Jehovah’s Witness would not tell you that you’re going to hell!
And I might add another thing, we have Jehovah’s Witnesses here in Europe too and they are NOT selling their religion, they are trying to make everyone aware of Christ so we can be saved! I have always accepted their invitations and pamphlets on Jesus, cause I BELIEVE IN HIM TOO!
Then it was somethin else either way I didn’t care to hear it
xavier thayers a coven near main but u must speak to the rest of are coven first i honer ur coridge i am 100 years old plase help me im still changing i was bitten when i was 12 wiped out my family ur coven did after u left DO U KNOW MY MOTHER ALIMAY she gone please help and i hope we can become good friends my clan speakes hily of u ser please anwser me. thoughtfully your’s alixandra marie xavier – ITS MY REAL NAME
oh guys….really, hes full of crap. Why indulge him with questions? Meow is right. He is making claims like “sunlight burns vampires” when really that notion was invented relatively recent in books such as Dracula.
The actual myths about vampires (first ones originated in ethiopia) never stated such things. Of course, the myth varies from culture to culture, but it has’nt been up until the late century that vampires have been considered “beautiful”, concious and “powerful”.
The original accounts never mentioned that vampires were “human like”. They weren’t ever supposed to be attractive!
Its because of books like Twilight and television shows like Buffy the Vampire Slayer that modern media has accepted the idea that vampires are seductive creatures, and tortured lonely souls….they are socially construcable really. And some people cannot distinguish reality from fantasy or fathom their boundaries…
hmmmmmm…..
So..interesting
It’s honour thy father and thy mother, not neighbour.
The JW should not have said that to you, it was pretty judgmental of him/her and i don’t really blame you for trying to get him back.
My ex next door neighbour was a JW and every time she came round to see me, she was always trying to get me to become one. I don’t believe in cults, even though a JW would argue that it isn’t a cult. We also had an old lady live in our flats who was the other side to me. She needed shopping and help from time to time and i would also invite her round. I found out that when i left my JW neighbour has not once gone round to see her, not very Christian is it?
EP, that’s probably ccause the elderly lady is set in her ways, you can’t convert someone old into a new religion, maybe that’s why she never went to see her?
Desirae
I say the same thing. I’ve done alot of research about vampires from around the world and what we consider vampires now is a very new concept. I actually wrote an article on here about the myths of vampires from around the world and how they have impacted our society. It’s called The Vampire Compendium and it can be found in the vampire section, if you go to the top of the page and click on “vampires”. You’ll find it there on the right side of the page.
I also wrote an article about people claiming to be vampires and can be found in the same section. It’s called To People Claiming to be Vampires.
Desirae-
You said that vampires were never mentioned as ‘human-like’ yet I’ve read many old myths were ‘vampires’ were human during the day and evil monster-like creatures duing the night.
In addition to that, it’s never really mentioned in a lot of old tales from many countries what happens to ‘vampires’ in sunlight because they usually were only see during the night. Anything could be possible. Same with any religion. Why do people follow a certain religion? Because they believe it to be true. If God is real why not vampires?
Xavier,
How is it decided that a ‘human’ can become a vampire?
Is it when a vampire gets lonely, he/she creates another like him/her?
Is it based on how likeable the ‘human’ is?
Is it based on how adaptable (to a new, slightly different way of life ) a ‘human’ is?
Or how genetically adaptable a human is to the transformation?
What makes a vampire want to turn another human into one such as themselves?
Do they ever regret their decisions?
Finally, have you turned another?
Please excuse some of the words I use [like 'turn' etc], I by no means am trying to offend. I just want to type it plain and simple, so as to not unnecesarily complicate things.
I also know that you as an individual can not speak for all vampires, as opinions and experiences differ one to another. But even if it’s solely your own, I believe it will be insightful none the less.
Peace be
Icis
That’s actually not true. Most original vampire myths said that they could be out during the day. They hunted at night because the only way they could describe sickness and disease at that time was some unknown creature making them sick and the only way that could happen, in their eyes, was for them to be attacked and not know it, basically, while they were sleeping.
Bracket-
Thanks alot! I’d love to read your article. Actual vampire lore is in fact very fascinating! I think the original vampires are much more interesting than what modern media has created them into.
Icis-
What I mean’t by “not humanlike” was that they didn’t actually look like humans. They were deceased loved ones who came alive a night to stalk the living. They never “walked” during the day. That notion was created by Bram Stroker.
They were pretty mindless too, they looked and acted more like zombies according to the earliest accounts from Mesopotamia and Ethiopia. Look it up! its actually pretty interesting.
bracket and Desirae-
bracket’s comment- ‘They hunted at night because the only way they could describe sickness and disease at that time was some unknown creature making them sick and the only way that could happen, in their eyes, was for them to be attacked and not know it, basically, while they were sleeping.’ And that’s is exactly my point. It never actually discribes them during the day. Only that they attacked at night when no one could say for sure what happened.
hi xavier.i read ur story yesterday nite.it was vry fascinating.i believe you because unlike othrs u dnt talk much and try to show off,which r fake.u tell things which have logic and i can relate it to practical.i have an inclination and fantasy towards vampirism.especially aftr seeing twilight.wel,tht was jst a made up movie.not like othrs il bundle u up wit loads of question.i wana ask u,do u hv frnz or u stay alone throughout?plz do answer me.take care and alwyz keep smiling
Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem
Which is Latin, and can be translated as:
No more things should be presumed to exist than are absolutely necessary.
People wish to be a vampire and yearn to believe in them, why? They wish to see themselves as the beautiful strong powerful creatures perceived in books such as Twilight, they want to be different. However the grass is not always greener on the other side. A trend comes just as fast as it goes.
I myself do not claim to be a ‘vampire’ but there are still plenty of ‘things’ our there. Things that have the capability of remaining hidden for the most part.
Xavier,
what about humans that want to become vampiric through the “disease”? How would one go about finding one to help with that, and would there be an interview to assure its for the right reasons. Like purpose or wanting to protect and honor the vampire community?
you say that you were exile. I hope i don’t offend by asking, but why were you exile?
Xavier,
I have read the entire thread of your post, and found it to be extremeley interesing. I am not a skeptic. I do believe there are and have always been vampires. The bible itself tells of Lilith, Adam’s first wife created of red clay and such. She was banashed and punished after she refused to lay beneath Adam and be a submissive good little wife. In the bible it tells of her eating babies and drinking the blood of her victims, claiming her to be a vampire, a (demon). I am not religious but I know my religion from when I was younger and forced to. I am now an athiest with no shame in that. I only state that to show that yes Vampires go as far back as the bible itself. Anyways, I want you to know that I want to believe that you are what you say you are. I truly do. I recently have been posting to another forum that dis-credits what I believe in, or should I say am looking for or seeking out. I am seeking out a true vampire for the purposes of giving permission to drink of my blood, and even turn me if they so choose. Yes, from reading your posts I am aware of the risks, and the possiblity that it may not even happen. But I will always search for one, my desire is too strong. It is all I can think about. i don’t really have any questions for you, merely your support and blood if you’d like it. And as for Christians who read this I’m not going to hell cause I don’t believe in it no more than I do God or Satan, sorry
I don’i know what your timezone is so bot sure when to look for you
Bleedme
I would be very interested if you could quote us where it says all that in the Bible.
http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Lilith
Isaiah 35:15
Isaiah 34:14
http://www.gotquestions.org/Lillith.html
http://encyclopedia.stateuniversity.com/pages/13520/Lilith.html
http://www.answers.com/topic/lilith
http://www.lilithgallery.com/library/lilith/The-Bible-of-ben-Sira.html
Lilith in the Bible
Isaiah 34:14, describing the desolation of Edom, is the only occurrence of Lilith in the Hebrew Bible:
Hebrew (ISO 259): pagšu ?iyyim et-?iyyim w-sa?ir ?al-r??hu yiqra ?akšam hirgi?ah lilit u-ma??ah lah mano? morpho-syntactic analysis: “yelpers meet-[perfect] howlers; 470, 484) suggest that Lilith was a goddess of the night, known also by the Jewish exiles in Babylon.
Hieronymus of Cardia translated Lilith with lamia, in Horace (De Arte Poetica liber, 340) a witch who steals children, similar to the Breton Korrigan, in Greek mythology described as a Libyan queen who mated with Zeus.
The screech owl translation of the KJV is without precedent, and apparently together with the “owl” (yanšup, probably a water bird) in 34:11, and the “great owl” (qippoz, properly a snake,) of 34:15 an attempt to render the eerie atmosphere of the passage by choosing suitable animals for difficult to translate Hebrew words.
Later translations include:
night-owl (Young, 1898) night monster (ASV 1901, NASB 1995) night hag (RSV 1947) night creature (NIV 1978, NKJV 1982, NLT 1996) nightjar (New World Translation, 1984) vampires (Moffatt Translation, 1922)
Jewish tradition
A Hebrew tradition exists in which an amulet is inscribed with the names of three angels (Senoy, Sansenoy, and Semangelof) and placed around the neck of newborn boys in order to protect them from the lilin until their circumcision. There is also a Hebrew tradition to wait three years before a boy’s hair is cut so as to attempt to trick Lilith into thinking the child is a girl so that the boy’s life may be spared.
Dead Sea scrolls
The appearance of Lilith in the Dead Sea Scrolls is somewhat more contentious, with one indisputable reference in the Song for a Sage (4Q510-511), and a promising additional allusion found by A. The first and irrefutable Lilith reference in the Song occurs in 4Q510, fragment 1:
“And I, the Instructor, proclaim His glorious splendor so as to frighten and to te[rrify] all the spirits of the destroying angels, spirits of the bastards, demons, Lilith, howlers, and [desert dwellers…] and those which fall upon men without warning to lead them astray from a spirit of understanding and to make their heart and their […] desolate during the present dominion of wickedness and predetermined time of humiliations for the sons of lig[ht], by the guilt of the ages of [those] smitten by iniquity – not for eternal destruction, [bu]t for an era of humiliation for transgression. ”
Hope that was helpfull
What you are refering to is just a passage that uses the original word “lilith”. It is a fascinating passage and it does give the idea that “lilith” was known but it doesnt say all that you said in your quotes.
Bracket in our paranormal forum said – “”The wild beasts of the desert shall also meet with the wild beasts of the island, and the satyr shall cry to his fellow; the scops-owl also shall rest there, and find for herself a place of rest.”
In this case “scops-owl” is referring to Lilith in the King James translation. This is the only time she is mentioned in the bible. ”
By the way you said Isaiah 35:15 Chapter 35 only has 10 verses
Isaiah 34:14,”Goat demons shall greet each other; there too the lilith will repose.”
That’s all I will post on this subject, think i’ve added enough. Maybe even gone a lil overboard with it.
not being mean but bleedme how can you be an atheist and still belive in vampires? maybe i’m unimformed bu i thaught atheist dont belive in anything including anything supernatural things.
Bleedme – I dont doubt that Lilith played a real part. What I was asking you was where did it say all that you said in the Bible? I have read a lot of the stuff you have given and it is really interesting, I would recommend others to check it out too. BUT…
You said “The bible itself tells of Lilith, Adam’s first wife created of red clay and such. She was banashed and punished after she refused to lay beneath Adam and be a submissive good little wife. In the bible it tells of her eating babies and drinking the blood of her victims, claiming her to be a vampire, a (demon).”
I wanted to know where the Bible said those things. The word “lilith” in the original and tranlsated to “scopes owl” doesnt tell the story you described.
Yes this is true that Lilith is mentioned only once in our Bible, but as you can see there is more detailed mention of her creation and what she is in the hebrew Bible. Christianity wants you to believe that Eve was the 1st but she wasn’t. Anyways this isn’t what this discussion started about and I preffer not to linger on it. I was just using it as a refference that vampires have existed for as far back as the bible, to the best of my knowledge.
Bleedme – No I think you did good and that you have added some good info to the page – all except for the “The bible itself tells of Lilith, Adam’s first wife…..” part and only because the Bible does not tell that story.
When God created Adam, he was lonely, so God created Lilith from the same dust from which Adam was molded. But they quarrelled; Adam [the proverbial domineering male] wished to rule over Lilith. But Lilith [a militant feminist] was also proud and willful, claiming equality with Adam because she was created from the same dust. She left Adam and fled the Garden. God sent three angels in pursuit of Lilith. They caught her and ordered her to return to Adam. She refused, and said that she would henceforth weaken and kill little children, infants and babes. The angels overpowered her, and she promised that if the mother hung an amulet over the baby bearing the names of the three angels, she would stay away from that home. So they let her go, and God created Eve to be Adam’s mate [created from Adam's rib, so that she couldn't claim equality]. And ever since, Lilith flies around the world, howling her hatred of mankind through the night, and vowing vengeance because of the shabby treatment she had received from Adam. She is also called “The Howling One.”
Ok, seriously I don’t want to detour any further from why I came here, and that was to talk to Xavier. I stand by him and support him. Whether he is being honest or not I do not know. I believe in giving the benifit of the doubt.
Xavier, I really do have high hopes that you will connect with me. I wish to know you well, and dream of meeting you some night.
Sincerely, Bleedme
Thank you CareTaker
jennieboo, I believe there is good and bad things in life, and I leave it at that. I don’t have “a” God I believe in because there are just far too many religions and they all think they are right and all they do is fight. Even people of the same faith will fight with one another over scriptures and what they are supposed to be doing in the name of “God”. That does not mean that I worship many gods, don’t get that statement wrong please. I go about my life without religion and it works for me. I believe everyone has the right to religion, just so long as they aren’t trying to cram it down my throat. Hope that answered your question
Bleedme – I think that is an interesting story and I think it is likely true as not. The only thing that threw me was when you said it told about it in the Bible.
I apologize for that mistake on my part, I should have said that she was only mentioned in the Bible, but more detailed information on her creation and being a succubus is in the Hebrew Bible. Again what I write is to the best of my knowledge. I do get a lil scrammbled sometimes in thought.
Lilith doesn’t appear in Genesis, and the only biblical reference to this mystery woman is a single line in Isaiah that mentions her as a female demon. A Canaanite demon called Lilitu, who tormented men, may have inspired the Hebrew Lilith. This demon has been traced back even further to Babylonian mythology.
The Lilith demon was later depicted as a slayer of infants and women in pregnancy and childbirth. She came out at night and drank human blood. Sound familiar? Lilith may have been the first vampire, predating Count Dracula by thousands of years.
Source http://khorsheed.com/pages/e-502-h-adam.html
Bleedme, no apology needed I am really glad you posted all that, it is some great stuff that I very much enjoy talking about.
thank you very much. I was afraid I might offend someone, but I try to support facts with what I say. Even if I get them a lil scrammbled up sometimes
I really hope Xavier can read past all of this and get back to me.
Caretaker, I found something I thought you would enjoy reading. If you can’t open it let me know and I’ll send you the link.
http://bitterwaters.com/files/The_Case_For_Lilith_02.pdf
Xavier, are you around?
Icis
“bracket and Desirae-
bracket’s comment- ‘They hunted at night because the only way they could describe sickness and disease at that time was some unknown creature making them sick and the only way that could happen, in their eyes, was for them to be attacked and not know it, basically, while they were sleeping.’ And that’s is exactly my point. It never actually discribes them during the day. Only that they attacked at night when no one could say for sure what happened.”
From the Vampire Compedium.
“the Sriz which, during the day, would climb to the top of the village church steeple and called out names of villagers. If a persons name was called they were to be a victim that night.”
The Ustrel is “a newborn that died on a Saturday before being baptized usually turned into this type of vampire. After the 9th night of burial, it would rise again and attack livestock. If enough blood was consumed, it would grow strong enough stay out during the daytime.”
“Poland had the Upier, a vampire that rises at mid day and returns to sleep at midnight. It has a barbed tongue and consumes large quantities of blood. It also sleeps in blood as well.”
“prevalent among South America is the Asema which would remove it’s skin at night and fly around as a gaseous ball (This is also very similar to the Haitian Loogaroo).” (this implies that it is out during the day.
“Japan also has the Rokurokubi. It is a Yokai, a Japanese spirit or demon. In the daytime, the Rokurokubi appear as a regular human but at night, they will stretch their necks to extraordinary lengths. Just like a human, they have different personalities. Some will be nice while others can be mischivous and evil. They usually hide their long neck from the general public, only showing them to drunkards or the blind. They were once normal human beings but were transformed by karma for breaking various precepts of Buddhism and like to drink blood.”
“The Malay Peninsula has the Penanggalan, or Penanggal. It is a woman who either has made a pact with the devil, was cursed, or was startled so much that her head fell off. By day they appear as a normal, maybe even beautiful, woman. But at night she will remove her head and, with her entrails hanging from her neck, will fly around looking for victims. Her main prey is pregnant women and children who she feeds on with a long invisible tongue. It is usually followed by an odor of vinegar.”
So as you can see, there are many myths of vampires being out during the day.
Hold up I have a Jerusalem Bible, I will go translate to english BRB!
O.K. 35:14 says the samething as in the Christian Bible and her name is only mentioned once.
mistake 34:14 Isaie La Bible de Jerusalem : Les chats sauvage recontreront les hyènes. Le satyre appellera le satyre, là encore se tapira Lilith elle trouvera le repos. Là nichera le serpent il pondra, fera éclore ses ouefs, groupera ses petits a l’ombre. Là encore se rassembleront les vautours. Most Bibles were written in French, so here is the closest translation I can give: Wild cats will encounter hyenas, the satyr will call the satyr, still LILITH will hide,she will find rest. She will nest the snake she will lay, will make her eggs hatch and will group her young in the shade, still , the vultures will gather (collect).
Xavier, I await anxiously to recieve an email from you. Again, I’ve read every thing on the post and am very interested in you. I am a willing soul and offer myself to vampirism. I am a true believer. The desire and urge I have is so compellingly strong to join with a coven, to be turned, or at the least be a voluntary human that will contribute her blood for any vampire that wants human blood. The pain I can endure, for I am a cutter to the extreme, and have been diagnosed with a depersonalization disociative disorder. So being away from people and disconnectting from the life I live now would be a easy transition. At least respond to let me know were I stand please. Again you are more than welcome to e-mail me at marybrennan21 @ yahoo.com.
Sincerely Bleedme
CareTaker, can I not give Xavier my e-mail address?
Our policy is not to post email addresses publicly but I do make exceptions. Posting your email addresses publicly like that can get you a lot of spam and unwanted emails. Since you have asked specifically I have allowed your email but have added spaces to it to make it non-clickable.
Bleed me, you are foolish. Do not do what one knows not of or you shall end in despair. You know nothing of a world beyond your own comforting one, and as I had previously mentioned since it is a ‘fad’ (as I think it is called in this time) to be a vampire it will soon end and the classification of monster will return, you will regret it. One’s own thoughts can get tiring after a while and living in darkness can make one envy those who remain in the sun. It is true when they say the grass is not always greener on the other side. Also people change, the world changes, everything changes and one day, you will be all alone and loneliness is not the same as long term decided seperation. It will end as felo de se. Latin translation – a suicide.
Thank you very much Caretaker you have been very kind and open minded as well and patient with my scrambling mistakes, I’ll get the e-mail right this time. I’m not concerned much with spammers I have wonderful spam protection on my system.
Xavier, I anxiously await to hear from you. I just hope you were able to get past all the religious talk I regretably brought into the post. Of course that is with the exception of Caretaker, I was more than happy to information with him. Again,Xavier I am truly fasinated and interested in you and what you have been through and am more than willing to be there for you and your needs. I await with intince anticipation for a response from you and hope to get an e-mail from you. marybrennan21 @ yahoo.com
Adamaris, you are entiteled to your opinion, though foolish you may think I am I asisure I you I know what am asking for and what I am getting myself into. You may believe it to be a “fad”, but I have for as long as I can remember, far beyond Twilite, and many other vampire movies before it my yurning desire is real. I didn’t start craving to be with vampires or offer myself to them based on books and movies. Sorry to disappoint you but what I feel is deep down in soul has always been there. As for bleing alone all of my life I have always felt alone, even when I have had someone to love me, and family. I have had people in my life in the past, and now as well but still feel alone and always will. I’ve always felt and known that I was meant to be alone. I actually feel better alone. Please, I wish no one to feel sorry for me, for there truly is no reason to. You say that it will be the end, a suicide. Well, I’m not afraid of that for I have already made 2 unsuccessfull attememts, which landed me in a mental hospital. And now I release my pain by cutting deep slices of flesh on I care my body. I also suffer from Depersonalisation Disosiative Disorder, look it up. I don’t do well with the outside world.
CareTaker I apologize will you please see to it that Xavier gets my e-mail?
Bleedme,
I sincerely hope that you have not set yourself up for a great disappointment. May I suggest therapy to address your “issues”. i.e cutting yourself. I would never presume to know what is best for you, just concerned. Also, in giving out your information to someone online can have negitive effects. -Cave quid dicis, quando, et cui. (beware of what you say, when, and to whom.) Good luck in whatever you decide.
Xavier,
Are you still reading these posts? I have not seen a comment from you since the 6th.
Bleedme, I am putting the spaces in myself. I expalined this earlier but my comment may have gotten buried, Xavier and anoyne else can still see and know what your email address is. I just rendered it unclickable.
You truly don’t, and I hope you never do. To be alone and to seclude yourself are different. To be alone and yet loved is different to wanting to love but being alone with no one. You will never understand that till you suffer it, and even now I cannot explain it clearly.You are enticed by the yearning to be different, to be something strange and mysterious and it is foolish. You have a comfortable life, do not end with it in ruins.
You are also incredibly selfish, to cut yourself, how would your family or friends feel, while you still have them. Then to even try to die, are you insulting your parents? To be something ‘different’ you have to be strong, independent and also sometimes cruel. Nevertheless trying to take your own life is in itself weak. The weak will not last long and thus even changing physically you will still be weak. Become strong, and live life, physical form should not hinder that child. Even depersonalization, if life goes before you then follow it and find yourself within it, so do not hurt others in your wake.
Since you have heard of vampire’s you want to be one, but what about the ‘other’ things that are out there. Would you be so willing then? or is it due to literature and yearning for that state.
You want to be something so different when you cannot already sort your existing life out. I apologise if I am rude, I have been told I can be, I am merely not so frivolous as to say meaningless words that mean nothing and I am very much blunt. Care sometimes fades the longer one is around. Keeping people at a distance requires it also.
Dear lord, bleedme, please get some help with your cutting issues… I am concerned for you!
bledme to long for a life of darkness is foolshess it will lead down a path that you will not be able to turn back from, even if you wanted to. a life like that i feel only sorrow for those who have it. I agree with Adamaris. You have so much to live for. Life is not a gift that can be easily squander, enjoy while you have it. but don’t throw it away for something that you might regret in the future. Trust me the choice that you want you might not be able to handle it and it will most likely make you evil.
CareTaker, my apologies I misread your post.
Adamaris, you speak as if you too are a vampire. And regaudless of what you think, I do know what I want. I am alone, I don’t want love and never really have. As for a comforatable life, you are again sadly mistaken. I can’t work due to any injury on the job that left me disabled with nerve damage to my spine that can not be repaired. I am in pain every day of my life both physical and emotional. My disabilty has rendered me unable to have sex, do everyday activities, exercise, or even walk without the use of a cane. And in some cases I must use a wheelchair. So, don’t dair to claim that I live a comfortable life for you do not know me. As for calling me a child, unless you are a vampire and you are hundreds of years of age or an elderly person, just to let you know I happen to 36 years old. Now in regaurds to my cutting myself, while I am doing it I am in another state of mind, which is why I explained that I suffer from Depersonalisation Dissociative Disorder. It is not something I merely chose to do in my regular state of mind, it occurs when I black out and seperate myself from my mind according to my psyciatrist. So, as far as being “selfish” for my self inflicted wounds, I don’t know how else to respond to you on that note. Just that in the future I hope before you go calling people names or critisizing them, that you will learn a little bit more about them first before you speak. Now when I attempted to take my own life, since you abviously need more information for your crucial analysis of me, I was raped by two men. I was young and under the enfluence of alchohol. Between the shame, the nightmares and the emotional and physical pain it brought me i coudn’t take it. So there, call me weak! I was too weak to fight off the S.O.B’s that put me through that and I was weak to relive that hellish nightmare day and night! I’ll say it again, before you belittle, ridicule or chose to give unwanted ugly opinions about someone, you really should do your homework and get to know them a little better first. You also asked about “other” things out there and if I would be willing. My answer to that question is that you would have to be more specific. And I believe I have stated before, but I could be wrong so don’t quote me on it, but No my desire does not come from any literature or movies. I don’t mind you being blunt and ask for honesty for it is al I will give. Just know me before you chose to speak ill of me.
Xavier, I appreciate that you take time to answer every question. I think you’re a pretty cool cat. I did not read past Sept 2nd because I am a bit tired of all the bickering and rude comments. You have already answered a lot of my questions, but the one I could not find an answer to before the last posting I read is: Do you still live in Germany or are you in North America? If the latter, why did you move? You mentioned you were going to Maine, so I assumed you are in N. America.
Jamie, I am and have been under the care of a psyciatrist for quite some time now.
Thank you
Bleedme perhaps you should consider joining our forum http://www.TalkParanormal.com it is part of the TrueGhostTales.com site and has a lot of the same people on it.
Raven, the choices I make are mine and mine alone to make. Whilst I understand and appreciate your concern, no one is ever going to be able to change the way I feel. My desire runs deep, has for as long as i can recall. It feels almost as a need more than just a yearning desire. Unless you truly know me and know my life then it is not for you to say that I have so much to live for. If what I seek ever does bestow upon me, turning evil will not send me away.
Sincerely, Bleedme
CareTaker, thanks I subscribed to the forum you suggested
Adamaris, one last thing. You say “To be something ‘different’ you have to be strong, independent and also sometimes cruel. Nevertheless trying to take your own life is in itself weak.” Well, I have already given you my explanation for the attempt on my life but as far as cruel……. You don’t want to cross me.
CareTaker, what exactly on that forum you reffered me to am I supposed to be looking for?
Bleedme,
My heart is breaking for you. You have been through so much, but you HAVE got to let go of the guilt you are carrying. You were NOT weak! Rape is an act of violence and you could not stop it. I wish there were some magic words I could say that would convince you that it was in NO WAY your fault and that no matter how hard life is, if you stay strong you will get through it. I do know what you are going through and it must feel as if the weight of the world is on your shoulders. My sister and I live together and are going through extremely rough times ourselves, and there are times I would like to just throw up my hands and say enough! – But, there is also so much good out there. You have people that care here, so what does that tell you? That you are WORTH it! Let us be your support. Please take care of yourself!
Bleedme, I cry for you. I hope you find the happiness you deserve in whatever form it may be.
Bleedme, I’m glad you are under the care of a psychiatrist. I am so sorry for the pain you have suffered in your life…
Bleedme
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I want to add, I don’t really like to talk about my life, but 3 years ago my mom had cancer of the throat after having a tumor removed, they found a dime sized spot in her lung, where they removed a piece of her lung, today they haven’t detected any cancer at all, her tests came back clear, she put up one heck of a fight, I know what you went through wasn’t easy and is no more with your disability, but surely there must be things or people in your life to make you want to live, life is so fragile. The Acoma, people indigenous people of North America, are known for their pottery of great beauty and strength.What distinguishes their pots from other Pueblo’s is the mix of the clay. Grandmothers search the desert for shards of pottery once formed, fired, used, and then discarded. They grind the old shards into powder. The potters then mix the old powder with unfired new. The two clays the old and the new toghether are molded and when fired become the strongest pottery. So we are formed, if we allow it. Old powder from our past experiences once thought usless, broken, lacking value, can be combined with new ones and through the fires of life, can give us strength, I hope you find this kind of strength.
Karen M.,
BRAVO!!! How absolutely true. And I am so glad to hear that your mother is doing well and cancer-free! That is wonderful news.
Words can often convey a deeper meaning than its simple text that lies before you, it is like a fruit with the seeds lying only within. Time changes people in various ways, and people always want what they cannot have, it is a normal occurence. By this I mean that in regards to being alone you may feel comfortable however when in a state that when you desire some sort of any close company and it fails, that is being truly alone.
To be in physical and mental pain requires time to heal however humans are able to adapt. There is always some one else, somewhere far worse but it is how you choose to deal with it. Find strength in your weakness and then adapt with it, even though it may be hard and you may feel no one can help you sometimes your greatest foe is yourself. I am not directing this comment at you but rather as a general to anyone.
By comfortable, we appear to have different definitions of it. My comfortable is in regards to the fact that when you are lonely you can seek company if you so wish, if you are hungry you can go out and get food easily, if you are tired or cold you can sleep in a warm bed. By comfortable it is merely the fact you can live as you are. Fear can render the bravest heart motionless.
36 years is still a child in my view, sorry if you do not like that but it is ones own opinion. I do not sport a wrinkled visage or lack of physical abilities and therefore I would not term myself as the elderly.
The reason I called you selfish is a part of my own experience, so it can be thought of as displaced annoyance. I knew someone with the same ‘habits’ and I watched as it destroyed her closest friend. If she had found a piece of glass or a pair of scissors it was extremely traumatic for the other to the point both were in the same boat. Personally blood is sticky and it gets everywhere, it also can take a while to stop and so spilling it un necessarily is not on my agender.
I can only know from what you tell me and I respond from what I see before me. Like I had said, in the past watching in particular two different more recent events it has caused me to be some what bitter to suicide and cutting. In my view both of the events, the circumstances for it to begin with, were not that bad and that made me even more annoyed to see people recklessly destroying other peoples lives just because they were concerned about themselves. Once again not directed at you but this is from what I have had and it can influence. I was more remembering the memory so it may sound bitter but the comment is like I said not at you.
I unfortunately value my pride far greater than most but I will say I should have had more tact when responding because not all circumstances are the same. Just after a while they seem that way.
Most people have skeletons in their closet and some have had experiences that can destroy them internally, I do not claim to understand what you have been through but I do know that your actions afterwards define you. Mental strength can sometimes overcome physical and do not forget that. I can some what understand you would have been heavily scarred and it would have been something beyond a nightmare but as I say this you are not alone. There are always others like you in which you can seek comfort from. You have to learn to let go of things. A past no matter how painful can be an experience that you learn from and make you into who you are.
An opinion is an opinion, you can ignore it or dwell on it, you tell me I respond. I am not one for pretty meaningless words that just show sympathy. It is the same as seeing a starving child on the television and saying ‘oh my poor thing’ etc yet nothing is done to help the child. It benefits no one. I lack compassion I have been told, I just think I lack sometimes the patience.
By ‘other’ things I mean that the world is far stranger than you know. Vampires are one thing but they are not the only things.
I do not speak ill of you, there is a difference between speaking ill and just saying what one thinks regardless of how it can be taken.
Cruelty is within the eye of the beholder one could say. One’s own view may differ from another.
Happiness if you own doing, you must live life. Do not dwell in death,
Sorry if I offend you, just so you know. Someone once said I should exercise some courteousy.
Adamaris,
Thank you for taking the time and undoubtedly deep thought into our ongoing discussion with your response. I felt it to be quite interesting to say the least. I greatly appreciate that you do see and acknowledge that it takes more than reading just a few sentences or passages in a post from an unknown individual before passing your judgment upon them, or giving the idea that you know them or what their life is and was. Yes, everyone has the right to their opinion and I value and respect yours. I am truly sorry to hear of what you had to bear witness to with your dear friend and her friend’s “habits’. Now, what small amount of information about my life and horrible things I have had to endure was only provided to you just to give ‘little’ bit of background information explaining to you why I had taken attempts upon my life, for you said I was “weak” for doing so. The portion of where I spoke of my cutting myself is in NO way intended to influence Anyone to do such a thing. My inflictions are due to a Clinical Dissociative Disorder.
For anyone that reads my posts, PLEASE , I am not wishing that upon anyone, and if they are doing it I suggest they seek professional help just as I am. Now when it comes to “skeletons in my closet”, you could set up a Halloween factory there. The thing is, my skeletons are out and running around. I mean that in two ways; 1. Trying to make light humor out of the darkness( hope you see the sarcastic humor in that) 2. I share everything with my Psychiatrists and chose not to hold on to them, or else would I have shared one of the deepest darkest moments of my past with you and all who read this? You say “Mental strength can sometimes overcome physical and do not forget that”. As does the sword of a blade slices both ways, sometimes the physical pain can just be so unbearable that your mental strength can not always overcome or at least be the dominant. I am more than aware that I am not alone in what I have been through, but I do not chose to seek out other rape victims and have get-togethers or tea parties or share stories, just as I know that there are many more women just like me that feel the same way. I have dealt with that issue & do with my doctor and that’s the last I will say of it. What happened to me or at least that one specific thing has not made me who I am. I am a collaboration of many things just as everyone else that walks this earth. For all I know, I was made in a Petri dish by some outta this world aliens and dropped off as some kind of experience gone terribly wrong. Oops, there goes that really bad since of humor I have. That was sincerely not meant to be rude, I was trying to be humorous.
To get back to reality you said that “By ‘other’ things I mean that the world is far stranger than you know”. I would find it rather difficult to believe it otherwise for I believe that vampires exist, so why not other beings? It’s impossible for me to fathom that we are all that exist upon this world . It is my pleasure to speak with you and I am not offended by your opinions, I myself have been told that I tend to jump the gun too soon, and strike my claws too quick. One more thing though if you please, you haven’t given me a true answer, just more or less danced around it in a fashion for me to assume……… are you a vampire?
Adamaris,
On a quick note, and this I joke not with you about. I do have an extremely annoying ‘ghost or spirit’ that will not leave me alone whilst I slumber. I sware this to be true words I speak to you. I only mention it because you asked earlier if I believed in ‘other’ things in this world besides vampires.
Xavier,
Were you ever what you claimed to be or just some teenager who was enjoying the moment and are now bored and wish not to return? Or are you true to your words? Do you plan on ever returning to this posts? Oh the tangled web I am caught in after being teased by your posts. Though I have no regrets for anything I have posted. I await to see your response.
Bleedme, I think he is just a teenager making up twilight fantasies, I’m glad that you don’t regret anything that you posted here. I know my words were probably meaningless to you and probably something that you’ve already heard a million times before. I can honestly say that I have never been in a situation like yours, so who am I to try and give advice. I think everyone going through that would have a different reaction, we’re not all alike, so no one can judge you for the things that you do, and it’s not fair for you for us to try and play pshycologists here, I don’t think anyone is condeming you or judging you, I think we all had good intentions. Take-care.
There was a big typo in the past 3 post I wish to make sure is corrected for I don’t want it read the wrong way for it can most certainly adhere a negative enfluence. It reads The portion of where I spoke of my cutting myself is in way intended to influence Anyone to do such a thing. and should read : The portion of where I spoke of my cutting myself is in NO way intended to influence Anyone to do such a thing. My apoligies for not checking three times over before submitting.
it sounds kool bein a vampire but i hav seen quite a few things that can end vampires like, wooden stakes, crosses and anything holy. but still vampires rock.
Bleedme,
I hate to say this, for I truly don’t want to dash your hopes, but I think you are right about Xavier. I think he is just some teenager that wanted to play vampire. I still don’t know if I believe or not that there are true vampires and not just the goth kids that role-play – remember years back when dungeons and dragons was all the rage and we had wizards and other mythical creatures “battleing” it out? But I do know this, I hope you find what you are looking for – not matter what that is. All we can ever hope for in life is one thing – contentment.
I think that it is really sad that the author of this story has not responed to bleedme’s questions, she is probably the only one among us who really believed his story. I think that it is unfair to take advantage of people that are going through emotional turmoil , maybe she just wanted a friend, someone to talk to because she feels so isolated too, someone to connect with, I don’t think that is fair to her nor did i EVER BELIEVE THAT XAVIER WAS A VAMPIRE! This is the last comment that I will post here!
P.S. I mean on this story and that’s what it is a STORY!
Oh and what makes you believe there is a ghost whilst you slumber? Merely curious.
That could be one way of looking at it, but I refer to something far different that are considered above the norm, the norm in this case are including ghosts and vampires etc.
Xavier made flaws, he avoided questions, he left out explanations to specific information. I have seen countless intelligent people spot his errors and know a thing or two about the subject to see holes in it.
Adamaris,
You have not been “spacific” in answering bleedme’s questions either. I have no intention of defending Xavier and his actions, It would be decent of you to answer bleedme’s questions. If doing so in an open forum bothers you then I’m certain that bleedme will allow you to email her personally.
As for you “Xavier”,
I truly hope you feel the shame of your actions. It is one thing to write stories and “role play” with your friends in forums constructed specificly for that purpose. It is quite another to prey off the hopes and wishes of another. You have left a lasting negitive impression upon me with your frivolity.
And what specific questions would they be? Just so I know on what page we are on. Although cryptic there are answers in my words although they may be harder to find.
Adamaris, I’ve only asked you point blank a few times now. Are you a Vampire?
Karen M.,
Thank you for your responses in regards to my posts. I will address each one of your posts towards me in order. Please bare with me for I take the time to be thorough in responding by going though each sentence. I also due to past posts am now using spell checker to avoid future mistakes, and read my own post before submitting. So, am I responding, I am just being careful, for I feel it necessary. September 16, 2009 at 6:20 am : I could not agree more with you, and honestly I have my doubts with Adamaris. I feel he may possibly be either Xavier posing as someone else or merely another child role playing. I say this because there are discrepancies in his posts as well. Again I read and read the post thoroughly for I am as you may have noticed somewhat of a debater. I was told in college, although it was not my major, it was my strongest point, and my weakest for I get too emotionally attached with the debate. And yet I know this is not a debate merely that of opinions and some mixed emotions. Your words are not now and have not been ‘meaningless’. I respect and value all that post here. Though you have not been in a position as mine, it does not mean you are not entitled to give advise, though you may not be a psychiatrist you have an honest concern and that, I appreciate. so in closing with that post, I don’t doubt the intentions from the people who have responded are nothing but good. September 16, 2009 at 4:20 pm. : Whilst again, I agree with you about Xavier, I would like to remind you that my intentions for responding to his posts were specifically for the purposes of seeking out a true vampire. I was fooled by him, I know. This was to be expected for I am searching on the internet, so that is going to happen and I am sure more often than not. As for you not posting here anymore, I am sorry to hear that, for I hope you at least return to read this post.
DarStarr.
Although Xavier was a poser and there will be many more to come, it does not and never will “crush” my desire. My search will continue on through the internet and other means. True, throughout the ages of mankind there have been fads for as long as there have been ‘myths’ and stories world wide of every ethninticy of tales of vampires, ghost, and ‘others among us. “Contentment”, yes we all need it and I intend to find it at whatever the costs.
Patiently, and Respectfully
Bleedme
Adamaris,
I don’t think it, I know it to be for every night without explanation my bed shakes as if someone is jumping on it. There is a noise is the room that sounds like someone breathing with severe difficulty. Items are thrown about in the room, and the vcr sometimes comes on and it is not plugged in. Also, it gets freezing cold in there when these things happen. It never occurs outside of the bedroom. When these things do occur, I feel paralyzed, but not afraid. You and anyone else can discredit me if you wish to do so for it is your right. But I’m the one that has to live with it. I am merely giving you a straight answer, which obviously is something you are not capable of doing.
Bleedme – perhaps you could write a story about your experiences so we can publish it on its own and everyone can comment.
Adamaris.
You say your words are “cryptic”, yet I have previously stated to you that you have merely danced around the question with your “cryptic” words, for I do see through you. Or at least the façade you put on.
Being specific is “free from ambiguity” being cryptic is in and of itself “ambiguous”.
How is it, that you have been specific whilst being cryptic? Is that not an oxymoron?
Hmmm….
I agree with Caretaker… bleedme I, for one, would love to hear some of your experiences, you seem to have alot you can write about, and it’s something I would def. comment and follow..
Jamie,
I preffer not to expose to all on the internet my most deepest intimate grusome moments in life that have happened to me. It is far to personal and is confident left between myself and my psyciatrist. I only spoke of me being raped to deffend myself against previous posts. I will post something else though.
For as long as I can recall it has been my deepest desire to encounter upon a true vampire. I lust and long for the mystery behind the true being whether it be a “demonic” form or an attractive seductive male or female. I believe with all my soul that vampires do exist. I am not referring to the people who say they draw energy or drink an ounce of blood from their friends because they need it to survive. I have a hard time believing that vampires spend time on the internet searching for a wiling bloodletter, at least certainly not the kind of vampire I succumb to. But here I am regardless. In my minds eye and heart & soul, my vision of a vampire is a mixture of being tempting, hypnotizing my intelligent, fast, frightening, maybe sexy or beastly, and powerful. But more than anything I see them drawing your pain away when you surrender to them. I believe them to be merciful, compassionate, vicious, dominate, and vigorous. I will never give up my search to find one. That is not to say that my desire surfaces from movies or books. So. if anyone that reads this and knows, and I mean seriously knows a way in which they can help me, please respond. I’m not playing some kind of role play game or anything of the sort. I have a true desire and passion to come face to face with a real live “dead” vampire. I freely value all comments and opinions whether positive or negative. My committed search will never end. Vampires do not sparkle
Bleedme,
I am positive that you feel that way, I don’t think anyone “here” would disagree with me on that. (anyone who has taken the time to read your post’s) You have taken special care in explaining to “us” why you feel so strongly about this. Thank you. I wish you well in your attempts to locate a vampire. If anyone “here” is deserving enough to know the truth about vampires, it is most certainly you. I know you have had trauma both physically and emotionally thru your life, I can only hope that whatever it is you seek to help you heal,makes itself known to you.
Adamaris,
I’m sure it is way past your bed time, so I do not expect to get a response from you right away. That is of course you are across the world in England or somewhere else where it is now day time ( assuming you are a vampire, though I doubt) as you would have me believe through your lovely “cryptic” words. I was just pondering on a thought of the grammar in which you speak, and it has been itching at me something terribly. You speak in such a way as in characters in films of elder vampires. I am baffled by this because professional people that study vampires for a living and thinking logically, one would think that you would speak like people of this day and age so to be more understandable in your words. Not only to be more understandable, but you stick out like a sore thumb. Ah, but then again maybe that is what you were going for? I have stated in my posts that I am a believer in vampires. I never said I believed in people, only I give the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise. I don’t jerk people around, and I call it like I see it. My intent is not to be mean. If I have offended you, my apologies. Although I may be able to read though your choice of language in time, it doesn’t nessecerally mean all can. This is just a little good intended advice that you speak modern day English.
hey xavier,why arent u replying?i guess may be cz of some people’s rude n humiliating comment u r nt cming nymor.but com’on atlest think of sm people whu really liked u n believd u…hope u keep my request….take care
Bleedme,
Karen told me about what was going on with this thread, as i have avoided it lately because i think at times it has become ridiculous with the claims of being a vampire. Like i’ve said before, if people claim they are vampires, why are they on the computer all the time? There’s also numerous other things that i could write here, but i really don’t want to waste my time.
The thing which bothers me is that you are willing things that are evil into your life like vampires and i strongly suspect that this is why you are experiencing these nightly incidents. You are attracting evil. It also bothers me that these people who claim to be vampires are causing you to do this and it is wrong.
The internet and stories like these influence people and can lead them into occult ways and thoughts.
You seem like an inteligent person who I hope will stop with these thoughts and wishes to see a vampire. What you will do is continue to attract evil, the evidence of this is what you are experiencing nightly. I hope you will stop all these thoughts before you end up with something in your life you cannot get rid of. I once had a near possession from something very evil, so i know what can happen. I wish that the people who are continuing to claim they are vampires will finish with this stupidity and selfish desire for attention as it is now getting out of hand and is influencing people.
Bleedme, your life will become alot better if you were to ask God for help, God is what got rid of the evil in my life. I KNOW both exist, both God/good and evil.
Bleedme,
I truly do wish you find what you are searching for. I hate the idea of people lying and playing with others hopes and emotions. It is just plain cruel!
Ellie,
What true and lovely thoughts! And you are right, there are many oxymorons in some of these “vampires” posts! The people need to realize that this site is not a fantasy game – that it is for people to share their TRUE experiences!
This is article two written by my friend Wayne:
Tracing the Origins of Vampirism
Who knows, maybe Xavier may not have internet access, or he may be otherwise away from a computer or something. I have noticed a lot of people asking why he isnt replying. I dont know, but if we give the benefit of the doubt perhaps there is a good reason for it.
This is so boring. Out of all the stories this is the one everyone comments on? Vampires are boring. For people that are looking for vampires to exist just read your history books, vampires are just extremely new (and yes a thousand years is new, relatively speaking). I remember being a child and reading anne rice and all the rumors about it being a real interview. I remember expecting vampires to also live like lost boys but it has become too sensational.
What I really really don’t get is the desire to be one. Well thats not true very few people in the world are healthy. It’s an escape from life, from responsibility but when you grow up you realize you just don’t have time to escape.
Can we please put these vampire stories in the vampire section, instead of the ghost story collection.
you know i just read eyepriestess’s comment and i agree. But also be aware of physical dangers. the dark side of me would love to take advantage of a girl like you. You are screaming for abuse and there are plenty of guys out there who will give it to you.
Here is one of a three part article written by a friend of mine, who studied vampirism:
“Mention Vampires to anyone now and instantly they will conjure up images…pale complexioned aristocrats, in fine clothes and draped in long, red lined cloaks…hiding fearsome features whilst sulking from shadow to shadow in search of their next victim!
Traditionally, an unsuspecting buxom wench, once bitten by a preying vampire, would spend eternity – neither dead nor alive…but suspended in the dark realms of the ‘un-dead’. Her ultimate task…to serve her fiendish master, and entice further victims into the vampire’s lair. Her only hope of salvation – the form of a wooden stake – plunged with such ferocity and accuracy, as to penetrate her blackened heart.
As romantic and exciting as the above may sound, it is no more than modern fiction, evolved from the imagination of the famous 19th century, Irish writer Bram Stoker. (8 November 1847-20 April 1912). His devilish Gothic character, ‘Count Dracula’ was an instant success and has remained a vampire icon for many, (if not most followers) ever since.
This magnificent ‘story’ is almost entirely responsible for modern media’s obsession to present. Its countless variations are the epitome of vampirism, when in fact true vampirism dates back almost to antiquity…prevailing in many cultures and continents throughout the world.
The Druid’s embraced it, the Celts, the Romans, and for 300 years it was even included in Christian teachings until the Roman’s influence eventually phased it out.
Throughout its passage in time, Vampire Lore has incited scorn, ridicule, disbelief, but always a sense of fear is ignited by its mere mention”. By Wayne Ridsdel
Jonathan This IS in the Vampire section – Look at the bottom of the story and you will see – Filed under: Vampires
I have decided to come back and keep commenting on this story, for 2 reasons and them being, 1) The very nice reply that I received from Bleedme, and 2) Eypriestess is my friend,
Karen,
I am pleased to see you have returned. I noticed you say that Eypriestess is your friend. Does this mean you are following my thread titled : In search for a true vampire?
Eyepriestess,
I find your research, or learning of ‘vampire’ (vampir, vampyre) to be well in tact. I see you must have spent much time learning of the vast cultures that all share their own beliefs and history of tales that date back as far back as the existance of this rock we live on. Wisdom is always a wonderful thing to share and much appreciated by most. I could not agree more with you that the modern day vampire puts themselves at a huge risk for a wide variety of disease and illnesses. I have been in chat room on forums where people claim to be modern day born or turned vampires. I have have listened to these individauls tell me that they drink only the blood of thier close friends, to ensure that they won’t become ill. I find it ignorant to think such for even a friend can be HIV positive and not know it, or have some other disease. I use the word ignorant for it’s definition not to imply stupidity, but mean mean ‘not to know or to not have knowledge of’. The people that I speak with and claim to be modern day vampires also have informed me that they do not want blood, but need it for survival, and only require an ounce to be exact. If you have more information on vampires you wish to share of litature as far as research go I would be very interested to see it.
Jonathan,
you are nothing more than a predator. I’d be careful of the way you speak for you are not the only one. The internet is vast and full of men staright out of prison that don’t like people like you preying on women. Just as there are every day men and women on-line capable of harboring will against you for your comment. So, don’t be such a fool predators feed off of other predators as well.
Caretaker,
I have also previously stated that I try to always give the benifit of the doubt. I believe I have done so, must stand by my word and continue until proven otherwise. I shall continue to await for Xavier to return and rebutt.
I once again have jumped the gun and must retract my claws. I have previously made comments towards Xavier unpatiently. Who am I to make presumptions about the wherabouts of him? I say presumptions because I think we all know what assuming does.
Bleedme, I didn’t know that you had published an article where can I find “In search of a true vampire”? I looked under the vampire section and also on EP”s site!
Eyepriestess,
I know his is out of order in which I reply to your posts, and I only address the last sentence for I believe I have covered the other issue.
September 17, 2009 at 11:58 am : “Bleedme, your life will become allot better if you were to ask God for help, God is what got rid of the evil in my life. I KNOW both exist, both God/good and evil.” I believe you have your faith as I have mine, I must say though before I chose to become an atheist I was a devout Christian and before that a Pentecostal. My life was no better then than it is now, and I did ask ‘God’ for help and believed him to be true. Call me the a fallen disciple or what you will. Either way with or without ‘God’ I have yet to find contentment.
Karen, if I may, here is what Bleedme was referring to http://www.talkparanormal.com/thread-2466.html
Oh thank-you Caretaker, just going to go and catch up on that and to bleedme on TP I’m Isis.
“I myself do not claim to be a ‘vampire’ but there are still plenty of ‘things’ out there”. Direct quote from myself, therefore I have not ‘edged’ around the question. I also have previously repeatedly indicated on the ‘other’ prospect.
I assure you that I am not Xavier, never was and nor do I intend to portray him, and in fact if I think over my previous posts, not one words of mine has been a lie. Believe that as you wish but it is true.
This ghost, I have a few ideas, as I have not seen what you see nor can I discredit it I would say it could actually be very real, or it may be a waking nightmare (I think this is its correct term), or simply your fascination with dark matters may delve into your unconcious. I am not trying to immediately put it down but these are also possible theories, of which I know have happened to people.
I have seen a few people mentioning of my strange answers. I am specific as I give an answer to your direct question, I am cryptic as my answers may be a little harder to find within its context. I am just very careful with my words, only an idiot would say everything all in the open for all to hear just to give a few people a few answers that they would wish to hear but are soon disregarded. I have mentioned I have words beneath words, and I have various reasons for them. Being careful is a constant as I do not wish to accidentally ‘slip up’.
Does not everyone live under a facade? A smile for a seethe, a laugh for a mockery, there are many terms to facade.
You seek power, lust, strength, which has just reacknowledged my previous thoughts. You are enticed by the beauty of being a vampire, and not the horror that lies underneath. The horror you may think of may now be an enticement, the yearning to be different, and better than humans. Also not all hearts bleed for a sorrowful past, sometimes its the strength you have showed out of it. Mind me on that.
Very clever, I am in fact in England. I noticed the implications of your words but I have a peculiar sleeping habit if you so wish to know. 2-3am to 7 am (roughly 4 hours) and if by convenience I am able to sleep uninterupted without any obligations I sleep from 4-5 am till about 2-3pm. Mostly nocturnal.
I have not watched films with ‘elder vampires’ so I would not know how they would speak, but I can approximate to what you are thinking. I simply speak proper English, something that is sadly dying out. Also I can speak as I wish here as it has no consequence in the ‘outerworld’. Also are you aware how long time runs but how short each moment lasts. Modern words as you could call it are introduced and very quickly fade. It would be more obvious if I constantly used out dated words rather than simply speaking as one should.
Also so prudent are your words, you call it like you see it, as do I.
bleedme, I would NEVER ask for someone who has been hurt like you (rape, etc) to post a story about those kind of things in your life… rather, I was hoping you would post a story on here about vampires, your wanting to be one, and possibly paranormal things that have happened or you have seen. I would NEVER ask you to post about your horrible experiences in your life such as the rape… I am sorry you even thought that’s what I meant…
Adamarais, NOW WE’RE ALL IDIOTS? “Only an idiot would say everything all in the open”! Mister, I’ve lived on 3 contients, I’ve met lot’s of jerks in my life, but I can say that you take the prize !
caretaker, you don’t have to print this in comments but I got to the story from ghost stories. I see it says filed unde rvampires. but if i go to ghost stories and navigate down the list this story comes up. Not a biggy but you made it sound like it shouldn’t be
Bleedme, how am i a predator pointing out that you let yourself open to such??? my point which got lost was asking oyu to be careful. I wa smaking a point by playing devils advocate. my message is be careful and in no way makes myself a predator.
I was actually refering to ‘people’ who claim to be a vampire ‘out for all to see’. In no way was I referring to you or the other participants in this topic. Giving and honest opinion or life experiences is different to saying everything about something that should be kept quiet. The entire context of the writing was to say, some people, please a few others by stating something they wish to believe in when the item of topic is supposed to be regarded as secret, and even if some information is shared in reality if it were true it would not be on the entire encyclopedia of it. It is difficult to explain but I think what I wrote is adequate to convey partially what I meant.
Good luck to you Bleedme.
DarStarr, you have remained positive, and heartfelt bravo!
Karen M, I have enjoyed your “sense of humor”
I no longer wish to be apart of this post, as I have nothing more constructive to add.
Hope to see you all around the “site” later.
Best wishes.
Jonathan
I see what you mean, when you click on Ghost Stories in the navigation it goes to a complete list of all stories regardles of their category.
Karen, glad to see you back
Jonathon, I saw what you meant in your comment to Bleedme, i too am concerned.
DarrStarr, thankyou!
Bleedme, when you ask God’s help you must be patient and also put the effort in yourself to turn your life around. You either believe or you don’t, but if you once had a belief in God then there must still be some of that there in your heart. God does not turn away from people who have asked him into their lives.
What you are asking for now is absolutely the opposite of God and if you go down the path you are contemplating you are on your own, without any protection whatsoever.
How do you know God was never there for you? Have you ever read the poem, ‘Footsteps in the Sand’? You probably have, but if you haven’t google it, it is a wonderful poem and explains that God is always there for us and protecting us, even if we are unaware of it.
None of us will find true contentment during our life on earth, but we must live our lives following good rather than evil for our souls to be saved.
Again, not meaning to be harsh, you are missing that people are trying to help you on here, which is probably similar to how you misinterpreted God’s lack of love for you.
Adamaris,
Thank you for the time and effort you put in to responding to me. I find each of your responses to be enlightening and I learn much as well. I have been impatient and hasty with my words. I do prefer do give the benefit of the doubt as I have stated previously, and in saying that whether you are truthful with your words is not for me to decide. I am here only to seek information and respond to those that speak to me. You have elected to be one of those people. Yes, there are many possibilities that could explain what I have been experiencing recently. I am open to all of them. The mind is a power thing and is open and susceptible to the power of suggestion. I have heard of accounts of ‘Night Terrors’, but not walking nightmares. I suffer from seizures as well, which could be another explanation, or I may unknowingly have a brain tumor or lesion on my brain or spine. That alone could explain my bizarre craving to encounter a vampire. I do not believe you are trying to ‘put me down’, but that you are attempting to have an intellectual debate with me. Your answers are not ‘hard to find’ for me. I only suggested that for the sake of others who read your comments, that you be more point blank. I am more than capable of reading your ‘words beneath words’. I must have been misleading for there is no beauty in being a vampire. Beauty is although, in the eye of the beholder mind you. The horror I am enticed by is one I have always been overwhelmed by, not just because people are surfacing again with a fad that will die out soon enough, whilst I will still long for it’s embrace. You state” only an idiot would say everything all in the open for all to hear just to give a few people a few answers that they would wish to hear but are soon disregarded ” In agreeing with you on that note, then how can you presume to speak of me being weak in knowing so little about me? Judge not a book by it’s cover for the pages inside are knowledgeable and will not leave you ignorant. What I would give to spend time in your presence to discuss our opinions and beliefs while looking into your eyes, for I do believe that there may hold some truth to the saying that the eyes are the window to the soul. You say you speak the way you do by choice as a means of ‘proper’ English, yet your grammar is not that of proper English. “Mostly nocturnal” is not a complete sentence. Please keep in mind I tend to go off on debating. I know, before you try to correct me that I do not speak proper English, but I don’t claim to either. I do use spell check though. My words are never intended to offend.
Sorry i haven’t been around for a while guys.
bleedme
Most myth tells us that vampires were disgusting creatures and the notion of the “romantic vampire” is a very new concept and why would it only change recently if they’ve been real the whole time? And to say that we’re just getting close to the real thing now would be very egotistical.
Jonathan
Just so you know, legends of vampires have been around MUCH longer than a thousand years.
Jonathan,
I obviously have misinterpreted your words, my apologies. It has always been my understanding that people here hold a deep and honest concern for my welll being and how I put myself out there. Please do not misunderstand me, or my gratitude for it must not show clear enough. Again, my apolgies, and retraction for such an insult on your character.
Bracket,
If you will go back to the last post I responded to,
(Bleedme says: September 17, 2009 at 11:06 pm) you will see I stated “I must have been misleading for there is no beauty in being a vampire. Beauty is although, in the eye of the beholder mind you. The horror I am enticed by is one I have always been overwhelmed by, not just because people are surfacing again with a fad that will die out soon enough, whilst I will still long for it’s embrace.” You have me confused and stumped because I don’t recall ever saying that we were ‘just getting close to the real thing now’. Could you refresh my memory or quote on where I may have said such a thing?
Jamie,
I understand that you would like to hear more of my encounters with the unexplained. Actually, I have been contemplating on entering the fictional story contest. Yet, I’m not quite sure if you are allowed to mix a little of fact with fiction. If I am allowed to do so I will let you know.
Bleedme-
I, too, am searching for answers to the puzzling mystery of whether or not vampires exist or not. If you find anything on any other sites, would you comment on where?
Bleedme
I’m talking about modern misconceptions about myths about vampires.
What do you want from them anyway?
Icis,
If you have followed my post then you will see that I try hard to answer to all that respond. Yes, if I find anything of interest I will share my discoveries.
Bracket,
I do not want anything thing from ‘modern day misconcepted mythical vampires’. I have stated enough times what is what I want from what I believe in.
On a lighter note, if there were such a ‘ modern day mythical’ vampire I would hope him to be a replica of Wesley Snipes. I would love to see him in action and I don’t mean in the movie theatre. Just a little humor to loosen the tension.
Bleedme, I think that’s a great idea… I don’t think anyone would know if you mix a little of your fact in there… don’tsome of the best fictitious writers draw from a few of their own experiences?
good luck in the contest, if you choose to enter
Jamie,
Thank you
Icis,
Here are a few sites that you will find very interesting and knowledgable.
homepages.udayton.edu/~farreljp/Vampires/lilith.htm
http://www.answers.com/topic/lilith-3
http://www.monstropedia.org/index.php?title=Lilith
Go for it bleedme, I also entered the contest, not like I will win, but it was fun to invent my own fiction story!
P.S. Did you notice the adds by google on the top right side to this story, there is an add for people who like vampires and would like to meet them, it says join for free and browse their profiles?
i’m sorry that i didn’t respond right back lol i didn’t see your comment. thank you so much for the answere and i so see where you are comming from! back to the subject on vampires acording to this article they can reproduce two ways.i was just wondering if anyone knows or if Xavier knows how this can be and the human population not become wiped out? im sorry if this qeustion was already asked and answered. theres so many comments posted already!
Wow very interesting? Can I ask you one question? What would you say to those humans for are just humans and claim to be a vampire. How long have you been a vampire if I can ask. Have you gotten used to being a vampire and do you sometimes wish to be human instead of a vampire? I know I said just one questions but I couldn’t help it. sorry for so many question It’s just so interesting when I read your story. It more believable then the others I have read. I know you said you cant or should not drink from humans but there are alot of vampires do drink from humans would the elder know about it and stop it ?
It is your own choice to regard my words as a truth or lie. Even if I state what I say is truth it is still up to you to interpret it in the way you wish to believe.
The concept I believe is called a ‘waking nightmare’ although as I had said this may not be the right term it is called. It is basically when the body undergoes paralysis and witness’ horrifying hallucinations that can feel very real. They can be caused by an underlying theme within ones mind (subconcious). I am not an expert in the subject but that is the loosely based concept of it. I have heard it can be beyond terrifying and almost too realisitc. This is just one explanation because as you mentioned the mind is very strange, and can play the strangest tricks.
As I had previously wrote, I believe to some extent in taking care in what I write. It is being what one could call careful. I can be very blunt but in the same instance I will be cautious of certain things I write. The world can be very strange.
The reason for calling you weak, I called you weak by what you have told me. Yes I do not know everything about you but I respond to what people tell me and react to what I am told and what I see in front of me, although those opinions may change later.
I see things as the reaction to the cause defines the person. In other words it is your following actions, how you take the situation and cope with it that make a person. If someone is ‘mugged’ and brutally battered till they are in hospital, even if they are nervous of going out but still continue to go out and live their life they are in their own right strong. If someone else has the same experience and then refuses to go out and will only dwell on the prospect of being hurt. In other words they do not move on with their life and just learn from it. This to me is weak. I chose this scenario simply as it is very general and it is completely hopefully unrelated and is just a simple example. I believe in strength of continuing to live ones life to the full no matter what obstacles there may be. I do understand there is a ‘lag’ period in which one is traumatised but when they can overcome it they, in my eyes, are someone strong and unique. Life is so short, and can be even shorter to others, there are many people in such harsh circumstances but still smile, and they are admirable. One woman, deformed legs, no arms, in increasing crippling pain but a painter,and a mother of which shows she can live her life and not dwell on her disadvantages. I am once again not hinting anything at you but explaining a view point so you see what I see.
Sometimes ones soul is something one would not wish to look at for it may show things no one would wish to see. You are intelligent and I have enjoyed our conversations. It is interesting one may wish to say.
I am not offended, and I hope not to offend you either. Like I said I can be blunt on some opinions of which can cause a degree of distaste. I often put in little notes in the messages after I read over them, that quote being one of them so they do not appear correct. It is just adding a little extra to the text before posting it. I am not completely using ‘Old English’ I admit and I do acknowledge that times change and writing styles differ and so I can accomodate to it. There are many words now never used before and many words used in the past that are un familiar now. It is adapting but not in a way that I have to be very focused on how I write as the words may soon become outdated, it is more of a universal approach. It is also easier to convery thoughts when using a wider range of vocabulary.
Also if I were using older English I would not be using can’t or won’t, sometimes changes makes things easier.
Bleedme-
Fantastic, thank you.
Eyepriestess,Your comments have not gone unappreciated nor disregarded on my part. I will heed your words, and if ever the time needed I will ask for your help. You have indeed been very informative on the sublet and your beliefs. I respect you and your faith.
Adamaris,
I will responding to your last post directed towards me soon. I have not been sleeping for days and do not feel well, but I do so wish to carry on with our conversations.
They had nightclubs 127 years ago? Was 21 already the legal drinking age even back then?
Okay so I have been reading up on all of your comments, and theres one thing missing, thats the lead man. Where is he? Have ya’ll ran him off or something? Some of you are really getting off subject here.
It has not only been brought to my attention from Flora, but it has been bothering me that people have been responding to me, instead of to the original person to whom posted this thread. Although I am grateful for all those who have been in conversation and debate with me, I wish to inform all that I will no longer be posting to this thread. If you wish to continue on with discussing issues in regards to me personally, you may find me at http://www.talkparanormal.com/thread-2466-page-1.html where I have started my own thread. I feel as though I have wronged the author of this thread for steering his readers off of his path. It has truly been my pleasure discussing certain issues with those who have chosen to speak with me and I hope to see you in the future.
On a side note, Adamaris out of all of the people I have encountered so far I find you to be the most intriguing and admirable. I too hold you to be one of high intelligence and have the utmost respect for you. If there were only one person or ‘being’ to follow me to the thread that I have posted on talkparanormal that I would truly wish that one to be you.
Farewell, to those who choose not to follow my thread, and thank you to those of you who do.
Xavier,
Looking forward to speaking with you when you return.. I hope you do, and i hope you’re well.
Bleedme.. Yeah i seriously think that good on you for wanting to become a vampire but getting on and posting how you love to be lonely and that you cut yourself is seriously wrong darlin. I think Vampires have a lot more to them than wanting to be lonely creatures who cut themselves.. Hope you’re ok.
Aaron
Yes I know I said I would not be posting here anymore, but I could not ignore Azza.
Azza,
There has obviously been a misunderstanding somewhere along the way. I do not nor have I ever ‘loved’ being alone. It just seems that I have always no matter what have deeply felt alone with myself all of my life. As to me cutting myself I have been diagnosed with depersonalization dissociative disorder. I don’t want to go into detail with it, but I just wanted you to know that there is a medical/psychological reason why I cut myself. I am as well as to be as expected. Take that as you will. Thank you for commenting.
On a side note to all, please if you wish to leave comments/posts to me go to
http://www.talkparanormal.com/ and look under Vampires: In search of a true vampire, or http://www.talkparanormal.com/thread-2466-post-29481.html#pid29481
I truly do not wish to intrude on Xavier’s thread.
hum xavier do you have any problem with halfbreeds i mean a big problem ??
I have returned I am well but I would like to know what happened in my absence…
Apparently my “period of sleep” didn’t last too long this time.
Azza’s last post caught my interest,
Still a bit groggy but I do not wish to be a lonely creature, infact I surround myself with people in the nightlife so, in a sense, I am not lonely…
royal99,
No, I do not have a problem with them unless they become an annoyance why? I have not had a chance to read everything since I left.
Xavier,
I am not sure if you have had a chance to go back over your thread. All I wish to say is, again my deepest apologies for my quick judgement on your character. I shall continue to keep up with your posts, for I am interested in what people have to say or ask you , and what you have to say.
Please note to all others I will only respond to a reply aimed at myself on http://www.talkparanormal.com/thread-2466-post-29481.html#pid29481
out of respect for Xavier.
Xavier-
Welcome back. It seems many people were beginning to become restless during your absence.
I see Icis…
Indeed Xavier, many have come to amusing speculations during your short but seemingly long absence. Let me formally introduce myself, if I have not already, I am Adamaris. If you wish to know all the intricate details just read over the thread. You may find some posts from various people to be rather interesting. I would just like to add I am not thinking of anyone specifically, just that it has been interesting.
I apologise to Bleedme, I reluctantly would like to say that I am not the boldest around and going to your thread would mean giving my email. I do not like to take any chances, no matter how small. It was quite conflicting and I would have to say this is the furthest I would go. I hope you can understand that.
“Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem
Which is Latin, and can be translated as:
No more things should be presumed to exist than are absolutely necessary.
People wish to be a vampire and yearn to believe in them, why? They wish to see themselves as the beautiful strong powerful creatures perceived in books such as Twilight, they want to be different. However the grass is not always greener on the other side. A trend comes just as fast as it goes.
“I myself do not claim to be a ‘vampire’ but there are still plenty of ‘things’ our there. Things that have the capability of remaining hidden for the most part.” – Adamaris
Indeed, the grass is not green here, infact I would give almost anything to be a regular human again.
I was exiled due to the fact I gave to much information out about vampire communities.
Larther: They had nightclubs 127 years ago? Was 21 already the legal drinking age even back then?
I don’t actually mean night club per say, but a bar/tavern… to me it is one in the same
XAVIAR
I AGREE WITH YOU
Oh well, there still is no legal drinking age in Europe, except now you have to be 18 to go to the discotech, but can buy cigarettes!
Xavier did you just say you DONT claim to be a vampire??? um, the title of your story is THROUGH THE EYES OF A VAMPIRE… just saying…
and why are you still giving out info about the vampire community… and why in the world would ‘they’ exile you to a place with access to a computer, so you could give even MORE info if you so chose? makes no sense at all… give up the ruse….
Xavier.
What do you personally have to say to those ,who like myself who believe in something much deeper than that of visions of beautiful vampires that are portrayed in films like “Twilight” and books by Anne Rice ? I know that not everyone believes in quite the same vision of a ‘vampire’ especially not what I envision. For I will say it again, what I long for may just very well be what you ache to escape from. I cannot say for certain for I can only describe what dwells deep within me and not that from which comes from novels and films or folklores told throughout the ages. My quest comes from my dreams. Yes, it is possible that they are manifested from years of watching movies and reading novels, but I feel that it comes from a deep desire, not fairy tails and made up stories, or legends. I see am rambling on, forgive me I tend to get lost in thought and carried away. I suppose what I was trying to get at was, what about those rare people who are not following the media, and novels as their source for their desire to be a part of the “vampiric” world? Surely you know by now that I do not speak of these modern day ‘vampire’ or any other types of vampires that most people speak of.
Sucks to be me, Bleeme
(pun entended)
Jamie,
I know this question was aimed at Xavier, but if I may, I think what he was getting at is that is that he is not the a-typical vampire that most people believe exsist. i could easily be wrong. It’s just what I read out of it.
Xavier,
Sorry for jumping ahead and answering for you. Couldn’t sit on my hands on this one.
Would like to see your reply to Jamie’s response.
Actually to Jamie’s response he is using a quote from an old message of mine and responding to it. I stated that I was not a vampire, but perhaps something else, not him. Unless Xavier is actually a girl then it would be her. You have just misread it as he had not used quotation marks. I hope that has cleared everything up.
Adamaris and Xavier – I edited that comment above to show that it was a quote…
The entire paragraph above the shown quote were also mine, just to prevent any other misunderstanding.
“Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem
Which is Latin, and can be translated as:
No more things should be presumed to exist than are absolutely necessary.
People wish to be a vampire and yearn to believe in them, why? They wish to see themselves as the beautiful strong powerful creatures perceived in books such as Twilight, they want to be different. However the grass is not always greener on the other side. A trend comes just as fast as it goes.
“I myself do not claim to be a ‘vampire’ but there are still plenty of ‘things’ our there. Things that have the capability of remaining hidden for the most part.” –
Adamaris,
Thank you for clearing that up. My eyes decieved me, my apologies.
Ah thank you Caretaker, I was about to jump ahead of myself I did indeed forget to quote… But the second half of Jamie’s post I can respond to so here it goes. I can buy a computer even though I am exiled, it isn’t like they threw me in a cave even if they did I could just move… it is kinda like Burn Notice if any of you have watched that where the guy gets fired and they dump him in Miami without anything being familiar except 3 people and he makes due with that? Same thing really only my account haven’t been wiped out.
Bleedme,
If what I am hearing is you want to find out about vampires through things other than media sources be very careful some sources you do not want to find yourself in such as a cult. but yes I suppose if you try hard enough you could find an enigma of some sorts that may or may not lead you to what you want to find. Also, not all vampires are “beautiful” some are like random people they can look like the homeless, the obese, or actors/actresses and we certainly don’t sparkle in the light…
Xavier, you are welcome. Thank you for continuing to visit and to reply to comments.
adamaris, thank you for clearing that up for me… xavier, my apologies…and thank you for continuing to respond to negative and postitive comments.
LOL – this is the most lamest article i’ve ever read on here!!
xavier sounds like a complete sociopath. i blame it all on twilight
some mentioned in comments about awfully sad experiences they’ve had in life. my prayers are with you. know that stuff like this happens to EVERYONE, E-V-E-R-Y-O-N-E!!! you’re not alone out there & there ARE people who care. good does come with the bad, just how ugly this world can be, there’s a lot of beauty to it as well, & everything happens for a reason. no matter how tough things may get, it is important to (stay) positive minded, faith, & by the grace of God will get you through it.
xoxo
I have been reading this thread for quite a bit now and it amazes me how some people are so disrespectfull to someone who is just trying to share their story .
Xavier i think your article is amazing and im so glad your back and commenting.
This is NOT a place for preaching I am only going to kindly ask you to leave now if your going to continue this one and only time thank you. God does not dwell here and if God DOES exist, he sure as hell doesn’t care about you or any other individual when he/she is an omniscient being controlling the UNIVERSE. So please no “God” posts here, I do not care for it.
Xavier, i did not read some of the long post, i just want to know if you change your name and other infos because if not, people would know that you’re 148 years old and might suspect your immortality? I assumed you don’t have permanent address because your neighbors will suspect that you never grow old? You know, simple stuff that might have me believe you’re real
Thanks!
Xavier,
I second you on the bible beaters.
Angel,
I couldn’t agree with you more. Although all are entitled to their opinions or point of views, it does not merit the right to be rude or disrespectful to the author of this thread.
Adamaris,
} watching and learning more each day. I know I have stated that I would only reply to people from a separate thread, but given the circumstances you and Xavier are an exception to the rule. Especially being as you are both ‘not people or human’. No, seriously it’s because I have come to looking forward to our discussions. And on a side note, I’ve always said that vampires do not sparkle 
I understand and respect your reasons for not going to the thread I posted. {I am lurking about in the shadows of this thread
Sucks to be me,
Bleedme
(Pun intended)
WOW SOMEONE SURE HAS A VENDETTA AGAINST GOD!
Bakulaw I am surprised that your question hasn’t come up till now, and the answer is yes I do have to change my info from time to time and to do that, I usually pull a disappearing act if you get what I mean by that.
child like,
Yes, I do have a vendetta against every religion, and there is a reason for that and it is called research, if you truly look into a religion and read enough into it you will find that most of the time it will not make any sense and contradict itself over and over again therefore religion is more like a country club for same thought ideals and dronish people who have nothing better to do with their lives than worship a thought.
xavier everyone has the right to post what they think, including you….please dont sit there and tell people what kind of posts they should and shouldnt post, when youre claiming to be immortal….
Jamie – Right on!
IF NOT RELIGION
WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR HOPE YOUR FAITH OF A BETTER LIFE
OR YOUR STRENGTH WHEN LIFE THROWS YOU A STUFF SITUATION IF NOT RELIGION.
WHO OR WHAT GIVES YOUR PEACE OF MIND THAT IT WILL BET BETTER?
WORSHIP A THOUGHT THAT GIVES YOU HOPE AND LIGHT IN YOUR LIFE IS NOT A BAD THING. FOR EACH IT’S OWN. IF IT WORKS WHY TRY TO FIX IT. RELIGION HAS HEAL MANY TROUBLE HEARTS AND SOUL THROUGH OUT THE WORLD MY FRIEND.
THANK YOU JAMIE
THANK YOU TO CARETAKER
thank you Bleedme
It is, as one would call it, the freedom of speech and the freedom to believe in what one wishes, regardless if it is the ‘supernatural’ or ‘religion’. Do not judge those if it is where they find strength and courage to do what is right, it is up to them. Although religion can be corrupt it can also be the foundation to many great things, it has brought about the brave who have given their lives to save others and teach compassion. With anything, there can be evil as well as good. It is also up to how one interprets it. To each his own. After a while, a person is a person, and a life is a life, such trivial things as what a person believes is pointless as they have th right to choose what they wish with their life.
Although I agree that everyone has the right to practice their faith and beliefs when it comes to religion and any other aspect, it does NOT give them the right to force their beliefs upon others. I believe that you are all missing the author’s point for you have managed to rile yourselves up with emotions about your faith and beliefs. Xavier’s point was for people to kindly stop bringing God and their faith into this thread. He was asking you to respect his wishes, for this is his thread. Religion is always and always will be an extremely touchy and emotional subject. Yes, we can say we have our beliefs just as Xavier has stated his, but there is no need to further on past that fact. I am sure it was not Xavier’s intentions to insult or offend anyone here. He merely wished to move on past the issue of religion and get back to what this thread originally started from. State your case and move on, is what I have gotten out of all of this.
Right, so it’s ok for all the talk about vampires in public and for you to say what you believe there, but yet it’s not ok for people who believe in God to have their say? If you don’t want to hear about other people’s points of view then don’t publish in full view of the world.
eyepriestess you are absolutely correct. bleedme, i dont think child like or eyepriestess said anything demeaning or called names to xavier… however you did use the word bible thumpers…. i mean at least we’re being respectful… is it possible for you to do the same? i’m also sure that xavier can speak for himself if he needed you to speak for him im sure he would have asked.
also, thank you adamaris you make a very fine point.
Eyepriestess,
Again I believe you are taking this out of context. My whole point was that this thread is not about God, but about Xavier’s experiences. This thread is based on the “vampire”. That is what isit called afterall, Through the eyes of a Vampire, not through the eyes of God. It was never my entention to offend anyone. I have stated time and time again that we are all entiteled to our opinions and beliefs, and that we should respect that. I was only pointing out that it seems as though some have gone off the beaten track of this thread. If people so wish to discuss thier beliefs and faiths in lengthy detail about God, then they should do so in a seperate thread for that sole purpose. Again, my words are not an attack against ‘God’ or anyone who worships the beliefs of ‘God’. I was just trying to say that in my opinion I believe that Xavier wanted us to stick to the subject at hand. ( The original topic)
Please, everyone, try to stick to comments and questions about Xavier’s experiences and the existence of Vampires.
Jamie,
I stand corrected. I was indeed wrong to use labels on people here. Also you are just as correct in that I should bide my tongue and allow Xavier to speak for himself. I did get carried away and just as everyone else here I stated my own opinions, for is that not what we do here?
Forgive my tastless remarks, never was it intended to offend anyone. I shall try to be far more carefull in the futre as to how I speak to people. That is not to say I won’t make mistakes, for I am human afterall.
Caretaker,
Though I have made errors along the way, I appreciate that it is understood that we should stick to the topic.
Sincerely
Sincerely
Caretaker – I’m definately with you on this one.. I’ve only been in here a tiny bit but keeping my eyes on the thread and yes it has completely gone off topic about the existence of Vampires to arguing over god and other religions and who should be allowed to say what. We should return to the topic.
Xavier, you interest me a lot and i’d like to know more about who you are and the life you live, the life you lived before your change even would be fascinating. I will admit i’m a fan of twilight, it’s a good read for something fun but it was long before the books that immortality and the existence of Vampires interested me. How can it not!! I do not think that they are all beautifully pale with magical powers and shiny skin (hehe) but like you have said just people with the gift/curse of immortality.
Bleedme – Sorry if i sounded offensive a while ago in the one post i wrote to you, there was none intended, you’re threads are also an interesting read.
Azza
Well, you are right EP (Patsy
) exsistance of vampires, don’t exsit!
I know, ‘some specific things’ exist but I have never run the experience of encountering what anyone would term a vampire, therefore although slightly more sceptical, I will not make a clear statement in regards to if they exist or not. I find vampires a peculiar subject and I have seen and noticed, ‘others’ mistaken as a vampire, or maybe a vampire is just a generalisation for a certain number of familiar characteristics, such as diet of blood.
Azza – To live forever is to die forever.
Xavier,
Have you come across other ‘beings’ or “things out there” as Adamaris has put it, in your time that are not ‘vampires’ ?
Sucks to be me, Bleedme
(pun intended)
Adamaris – Skeptisism is a good thing to have. I would like to say though, if there is actual proof of Alien beings and ghosts etc, who’s to say that there cannot be such things as vampires??
Bleedme – I think it may be pushing the subject if you’re refering to maybe werewolves or the like!!
Xavier – Where are you??
Aliens, ghosts, and vampires are all very very different things, just because one may exist does not prove the existance of another, one supernatural does not make all the others real. I also said, that I do not know if they exist or not and therefore will not make a clear definate statement, but I do know the world is not black and white, there is a lot of grey.
Bleedme is referring to my comment, and why do you instantly think of the next top common fantasy driven supernatural? The world is a lot more complex than you think.
Azza, & Adamaris,
I am merely attempting to get back to what I thought we were all here for, or at least why I am here. I have an interest in Xavier and what he has to say. As do I value the input of everyone here, even when it may not seem so at times. Whether my questions are bit “out there” or not seems irrelevant unless Xavier himself says so in my opinion.
Xavier,
Others have voiced their opinions on the question geared toward you. (which Ironically enough is something I tend to get ostracized for doing and I’m quite certain there will be consequences for that remark as well.) It is your reply I await to hear.
Sucks to be Me, Bleedme
Ok, starting from where I left off,
Jamie,
Everyone does have the right to post yes, and I am sorry, but religion is a very touchy subject for me.
Child Like,
I have no hope anymore I have been around longer than any normal person, nothing gives me peace of mind, and finally, sometimes worshipping a thought is VERY bad, for instance throughout the years over in other countries people kill others for that very thought they so adore, that is a very bad thing as like everyone said everyone has an equal right to believe,say, or do what they want so long as it falls within legal perimeters
Oh and please for the love of a thought, turn your caps lock off…
Ok, to everyone, immortal does not mean I cannot die, it just means there is no time limit on my life, I am not invincible you know…
Bleedme,
No, I have not come across anything other than other vampires… I highly doubt there is such thing as a werewolf… if thats what your referring to…
And yes, I have no problem with the mention of God but it is when these people with faith come in and post comments to derail this thread and quietly “force” others into their faith that is crossing a border I really do not want here…
O.K. I guess in a way that we are all vampires, cause God promised us eternal life!
Karen M. I kinda figured as soon as I came back you would continue to troll this topic…
Not a problem, after 148 years have you learned the French langauge? Well I guess to each his own……..right???
Xavier,
I had no doubts to what you were getting at when it came to others pushing or quietly ‘forcing’ faith or religion upon those that wish not to hear it. Again, I was wrong for my crude way of labeling people and regret doing such a thing for I despise when it is done to me. I find it strange that the first word you associate or presume that I do with the term ‘other beings’ is a werewolf. I never specifically gave a name or linked a word with the term ‘beings’ or others. Is this possibly because it is what you believe Adamaris to be? Or are you just making assumptions as to what you think I imagine there to be? Also, close to the beginning of your threads you stated you met a girl, so is it not safe to say you are male so that we can put that question to rest for some? I eagerly await as always,
Bleedme
Karen isn’t trolling it, she’s just trying to figure you out that’s all/ You claim to be a vampire but you avoid all the questions, like how come you have a computer in exhile, how come you don’t know certain languages etc…she has just cottoned on to the fact that it’s a load of tosh this thread!
Xavier, you of all people should then know that with what you term as ‘bad’ there is also a lot of ‘good’. Also why do you bother so much in human affairs? It will be the same regardless of the issue. Race, religion, territory, power, there will always be something. You should also know that. I just like to watch.
Karen M, I am not defending anyone, but regardless of the languages you learn if they are of little use to you and you do not speak it often then over time they become forgotten. It is sad to lose a once known tongue but as time passes and it remains unused it fades. C’est la vie.
Just for the record, as they say, I am not a werewolf either. Also fair enough, however just because female is mentioned, it can mean nothing. The world is not black and white.
Just for the record, Adamaris I never said you were a werewolf. I was asking Xavier why he presumed I was speaking of werewolves when reffering to ‘other beings’. Still waiting for an answer. And still the question is out there I presume whether Xavier is male or female. This is by no means to come off as rude but my questions are for Xavier at the moment.
Thank you,
If you only drink animal blood what animal do you prefer.
As far as for vampires,i believe anything is possible.Giants lived in the old times in the bible they are called nephylims.
eyepriestess, you have obviously come to this thread without reading, scroll up it will do a world of good, I said I was exiled to a place like a small town whereabouts I shall not discuss for obvious reasons, and that means I can buy a computer, I have been around for a long time and hence made money, it is not a problem for me. Oh and just because someone has been around for a long time does not mean they know every language… if you think that, you are really truthfully narrow minded and I do not avoid questions, if I cannot answer it I simply say so, and if I can I do, read the comments before you do so yourself unless you enjoy not knowing what your talking about…
Adamaris,
I like to talk and coerce with humans because other vampires are most of the time antisocial so humans provide good conversation.
Bleedme,
I am a male, and I was born in Germany.
Scott,
I prefer cattle or cow blood to be honest.
Scott,
giants still live today tho they arenot as what comes to mind when someone thinks of a giant they instantly think of Goliath a huge monster, this is not the case, a giant is merely a very tall person it is actually kind of funny…
Do you frequent new orleans,i know there are lots of wanna be vamps out there.
Actually I am not only responding to you, I am responding to some one elses comment who just so happens to have the same sort of thread as yours. Also, if you have no interest in what I write, don’t read it.
Xavier, humans provide good conversation? I admit some can hold a few intelligent thoughts but for the most they are like sheep. It is really difficult to find common respect around ones so thoughtless they will listen to any authority just because they are told. A large example, which you should know of oh so well, is during the second world war in Germany. I find entertainment sometimes in their lives, there is not much else to do. They can come up with the strangest thoughts which even now can make me stop and think. Anyone mundane, or living by the ‘at the time culture’ quickly loses my interest.
I do not like cow blood so much, it tastes more watery, less rich in my opinion. Then again I do not need blood as a stable food source, I eat anything but I do enjoy a good ol’ rare steak.
No, I do not Scott…
Your first entry at the top reminds me alot of the interview with a vampire movie with brad pitt.Although as i said anything is possible but i also belive that some people wnat to be a certain way so bad that they start to actually beleive it themselves and i am in noway refering to you just food for thought as they say.
Adamaris,
There seems to be a misunderstanding between you and I. I have always found great interest in reading your posts and replies. I have said before that I hold the utmost respect for you of all people or ‘beings’ here, as well as for Xavier. That is not to say that I don’t respect all here. I merely hold more of an interest in the two of you. Just as yourself I am here to watch and learn. Forgive me if I have given you the wrong impression.
Xavier,
You say you are a vampire? But I see a great deal of holes in your story.
I do believe that perhaps you may have some illness such as porphyria which perhaps has caused you to be introverted in person and therefore have made up this interesting story. Its always easy to be someone else online versus actual reality.
I am forever a skeptic of your story so I invite you to meet me to prove me wrong….
What do you say?
Learning is all we mean to do in life when you think about it, everything else is just an add on…
Newyorkshedoc,
I really have to say, WELL said! Kudos!
Xavier,
Not to be disrespectful, but why do you just ignore her request to meet?
Good Afternoon Xavier,
I can see that you have been through much. I aplaud you for coming in pubic and wonder why though. One of the 13 rules is that it is advised to keep who you are secretary to the society, I am not writing to judge to only understand. How long have you been a Vampyre (Vampire)? Was it terribly painful?
I find this facinating, I apologize for anything that was offensive, but I am looking out for the welfare of you and all that are like you.
There are other ways to satisfy thirst if you are internested, in the knowledge. Drinking thick substances and warm and thick, can trisk the body (human or otherwise) into believing that it is blood.
And I am not sure how it is if you reisde in a Coven, but you are allowed to drink from humans as consenting donors only taking what the donor will allow you to have, and you must be sure that this donor will be discretionary, selcting a loud-mouthed one can become harmful to everyone.
Thanks for allowing my insight and I hope that some of it might have helped you, and just for the record since I have been mistaked before on this site; I am a female.
I doubt he would need ‘looking out for’ (no offense), and if his story is true, although I have found a few ‘slip ups’ as one could say, I think he would know a thing or two from his short/ long (whichever way you wish to look at it) life. It would be like me telling you how to breathe. I am not speaking for him, just my own opinion. If I come across as rude, I apologise, I am just blunt.
But you do state some truth in what you write, last thing anyone would need is someone who cannot hold their tongue. Apart from being uncommonly annoying it is as you say dangerous. Thats why it is better to trust no one, and suspect everyone. Also risks should not be taken.
Also, just for the record, I am not a vampire, but there are (as I have mentioned) ‘other things’ out there. However as ‘vampire’ is not clearly defined I am often mistaken for one. You would be suprised by my physical appearance age compared to, lets just say mental age.
Adamaris, I am continually … what’s the word I’m looking for here?… enthralled with you? Amazed by your way of putting things.. I really enjoy reading your comments. I can tell you are a very deep thinking individual.
Xavier its not nice to lie to people and say you are a vampire. You may anger some, but I plainly think its funny
Adamaris,
I agree with Jamie. I know this thread belongs to Xavier, and we should stick to replying and commenting to his posts, but I find you to be so intriguing. Also, I know you said you wouldn’t go to my thread for reasons understood, but is there a chance that you would kindly post your own thread on this site? I’m aware that you prefer to watch, but I have noticed that watching does not stop you from giving your incite or opinions. I feel there is much that can be learned from you, regardless of whether or not we see eye to eye at times.
CareTaker,
My apologies ahead of time. I know we are supposed to stick to this thread. I just wanted to address my interest to Adamaris, and this is the last time I will do so.
Xavier,
Whether your words are true are fantasy I think at this point matters not because regardless of either, people will continue to come here. I’m not here to judge or pick apart everything you say. Yet there will be those who will. I can’t speak for others but I must say this thread has been interesting,( almost addicting) and continues to draw attention. There will be believers and skeptics and most will continue to reply or comment to your post regardless. At least I know I will.
Thanks DarStarr.
Its the truth, isn’t it?
He did ignore it because everything I said, hit the nail right on the head.
People who pretend to be vamps other than humans who have an awful illness. Please take no offense you guys. I do feel for you all but its just sad to pretend you are vampires. Deal with it, we have all have health issues some worse than others and we deal with them straight on including me.
Actually, newyorkshedoc,
Not that your name sounds like a shrink or anything but it would seem you and I are a long ways apart, If you wish to meet me, you must keep in mind I am not to be trifled with and will kill if I have to, also, you must come to me… alone…
Oh and yeah, I never ignored your comment, just been away until now.
Scythe,
I am sure you can find most of your answers within this thread.
And to those who think I intentionally skipped newyorkshedoc’s comment, look at the time difference, I did not skip it on purpose and the comment I posted after hers was to the one above hers it was not a skip it was a line of time stamp caretaker can vouch for that since he has to approve them from when they were posted.
Bleedme I completely agree… Everytime I come on the site, I look at recent comments, and if I see one on here, I HAVE to go to it and see who said what! LOL.. and of course im always waiting to see the answers that Xavier has to questions…
newyorkshedoc,
Is SOOOO is!! And I guess what is bothering me is that these people play vampire and there are others out there that will believe it and wish for this! It’s like hoping for a horrible sickness!
i don’t understand at all, your saying that… what the heck so if they are real and hide in the dark or whatever coven your guys are chatting about . if you are what you claim and this is a sikness or some thing like AIDS dose this mean you have it for life but what if one is born with something that whipes out your exsistance havent you thought about such things. if you consider something obserd and diffrent that you yourself are a mortal then dose this not give you hope that you are a diying breed?
Wow. I’d say thats a threat. What do you think DarStarr?
I mean you no harm. I took an oath not long ago not to harm. Yes I am a doctor but not a shrink. I’d rather not say what type of doctor I am for my own protection. No I am merely someone who is interested in what you have to say and if this is true. I am a seeker of truth not a destroyer.
I also believe me what I see in front of me so although movies and stories of vampires may be deemed as “cool” to many people, I doubt their existence. I just think people who claim they are vampires who are people who arent happy with themselves and want to be something or someone else rather than themselves. But…having said that I am willing to be proved wrong which is why I asked to meet you? I am in the NY area. Where exactly are you?
Xavier,
The answers I sought I sought through your expiriences, as you saw them. I am interested in your condition, and I want to know more about you. I know more about the subject than I let on and I wanted to meet more of you. I don’t know how old you are, and I don’t know who you are, but I do believe that you are who and what you say you are.
I cannot speak out against what you say that you have been through, because I wasn’t there, I trust without seeing.
I wish to know more about you, call me a seeker if you will.
I look forward to hearing more from you, and if not then it was nice to half-way meet you.
Newyorkshedoc,
Sounds like you just might be right! Sounds like someone is getting a bit testy!! lol! I so agree with you. Vampires are in and cool right now, and all we can do is wait it out until something new comes along.
I remember being a “Pink Lady” was Grease came out! And I truly WAS a Pink Lady!!!
I do think this vampairisum is some sort of exscuse for being elergic to thee sun or pale skin that dose not react with the sun, however is it just me or is anyone gettin the impression of dajavu. i do nor intend to understand what you are elabrating or there for a good story teller but something to this disese you exsplain seem to me like yo have becomee elabrate and dependent as to call yourself a vampair though this Vampair thing you say could be an elousion to the mind or a pitiful exscuse to look diffrent. but there shall be no cure or are you going to give me some sob story of an exscuse. isnt this coincidence or not. i think if you are smart you may just make yourself seem less stupid then some lies i have seen alredy. what if you are destroyed and your life made into a missarey could there be something creaed to kill your kind or are you so called vampairs to bissy gettin a story togethter for your exscuses or this ilness? question yourself what are we all hear for?
Bleedme and Jamie, thank you for your comments. I strive, not to prove my individuality, but rather to be as I am, if that means then being different and sometimes speaking in what would be perceived as a crude manner then so be it. No matter who you are in this world, there will always be people who will ‘appreciate’ you aswell as those who will despise you. I am glad that I am not only the latter. ‘Cogito, ergo sum’, which simply translates to, ‘I think, therefore I am’.
And what pray tell should this thread be about? In order to have a thread there has to be a ‘title’,or in other words a thought or subject. It depends on what you seek in me and what you wish to know.
I too enjoy these posts, they are in their own way intriguing and unique.
Xavier, how cliché, your words sound as though they were straight out of the pages from a novel or perhaps a movie. You would kill? That would definately not draw attention to yourself, note sarcasm. So predictable, so easily disastrous, and all the more easy to find. Also there is more than one way to kill, and I do not in any way mean physically. Of course I will not divulge on these notions but on another similar note, why so shrouded. In public, the mask of humanity amongst the masses is something you should be quite good at.
In truth vamparism can be seen as a disease. A disease actually means that the body is functioning mentally/ physically in an abnormal manner. Therefore many can be seen to be diseased if this is the concept taken. It depends on how one views it.
Jane,
don’t you think if this was an illness we will all have heard about it all over the news and it would of been more open out there and hidden in the dark? I don’t think it’s a physical illness. Stranges things has happen that we can’t explain in life why not this? How do we know if it does exist or does not exist? Who are we to judge what we don’t know? Are you an expert, a doctor or what? Have an open mind and don’t judge what you don;t know.
i have a strange question to ask why do people whish for this curse amongsed their selfs is it they want to be diffrent or want to be seen as something out of the odanery and if this so called vamparism is a disease why would you want it, dose nobody want a long happy NORMAL life anymore. i for one dose not understand why some wish for the curse to be unleashed among their selfs is one not able to acsept that they will just be human? you are what you make yourself if it is you so called fantacey to be such thing then doo it. but vamparism is a dying breed, they dont seek fit to continue unoticed forever till something new comes along and they are gone forever just a long lost memory
Child like,
who says i am jugeing i am just wanting to understand more of this as i am a very young generation hit by this i want to be a vampair phrase as one of my best buds whants to become one and i do not whish for her to go around trying to cach something that wiil make her not herslef as she is in some conversation over a website who also claimes to be one of these with this type of thing. do i not wish to make these supposed vampairs feel uncomfortabule but i wish to know is it like hell?
Jane,
Us humans don’t know what vamparism is? If they have powers or not? If they are happy that way or not? Do you know any one who is a vampire jane? Vampires might of excited from centuries ago and they probably still exist now only they mingle with the humans and we don’t even know it ourself. You can’t say it’s a dying breed. They are not cows!
They have feelings to have a little respect! Maybe they don’t want us to know who they are because they don’t want to be under a scope like a new species and treated like an animal. What do you think Jane?
Adamaris, you sound like someone I know… it’s crazy… and a long shot.. is your name Joshua?
Although I cannot speak for vampires, but I agree to some extent with what childlike is saying. As soon as someone realises another person is not ‘normal’ they are treated ‘like some queer disease’. Even a person with a scar or mark visible on their body, people will become apprehensive of sitting next to them.
Also, one who is truly afflicted with anything, regardless of what it is, would be constantly conscious about it and depending on what it is ,excessive care may need to be taken which can be draining as one must always have to think about it. I have known people who have had diseases such as HIV and had only found out after their untimely death. Even without the realms of the supernatural there is still secrecy over ‘health’ or abnormal related matters.
No, my name is not Joshua I’m afraid. Perhaps though we would have a great deal in common.
Adamaris,
I wish there were another way in which we could communicate other than this site. It does not sit well with me to intrude upon Xavier’s thread speaking to others unrelated to him particularly. I would like to keep my word to him and CareTaker and keep my replies and comments geared towards his posts. Yet, I am left no choice but to reply to you here until you begin your own thread. So having said that, in regards to what you should title your thread, personally I would like to know more about you and your life experiences in general or at least what you are willing to reveal. You have made it abundantly clear that you are not a ‘vampire’, yet you are something else. That is what I am curious about, and I must admit that even though we disagree on some issues, I find our conversations (sometimes debates) knowledgeable, heartfelt, comical at times, genuine and to say the least never boring. Not to mention the fact that am capable of seeing though your ‘cryptic’ words, for they aren’t that at all to me. You speak in a manner of intelligence and deep thought whilst keeping your emotions ‘in check’ sort of speak. Now to get to the bottom line, what to write; I am sure that you can come up with a title fitting to what I am asking of you. Or just publish anything you so choose to write about, at least then there would be a better way for us to communicate.
you sound familer to me or at least your style of writing. but that is unusal hehe but you should start your own thread so that it does not get off topic. to me it seems like you are an immortal
I agree that adamaris is extremely interesting. I am still amazed at the similarities between you, adamaris, and my ex Joshua. He was something else too, but never admitted it to me. It seems strange now. But then I just thought the gleam in his eye was love for me.
The gleam in the eye sound familiar?
Xavier, I have followed your thread since the beginning and I must say that I am intrigued by your story, however, I am sorry that my main comment is not for you.
Adamaris, forgive me if I seem too forward but if you are not a vampire would you then prey-tell what you are exactly? Are you still something that is considered cursed like a werewolf or a windigo? Perhaps an immortal of some kind? If it is possible for you to answer please let me know, I would deeply appreciate it.
Jane,
Sorry I understand now your questions and the way you say it. I wouldn’t want my friend to become one also. I heard that when the humans transforms unto a vamp they are more animal like than humans and it takes years for them to feel human like again. They have to master it again it’s just hear say. Sorry again it just sounded like if you were attacking them and I hope your friend changes his/her mind about becoming one. It’s not like the movies!
Child Like,
I slightly agree but how do they stay a secret when they dont go into the sunlight is it for one they blend with the people who go out on a night? or simply go out when there is no sun in the sky?
A dying breed the vampairs must not bee but cows are not dyinug off but i have read no vampair knows how to change a human but some of them mut if people are still changing, could we consider they are born with a sertan jean which makes them change avencualy. i could never consider having known one but i think i could have help some type of creacher of the night.
Child like,
thanks i do consider that she could change her mined but she is dead set on this and i hope she dose act more human but the truth is i would help her even if she became a vampair, i would help anyone if they need it no matter who or what they are.
My question is for Xavier and Adamaris. (By the way I have not seen nor wish to see “Twilight”) I understand that curiosity sometimes kills the cat, but I am curious nonetheless. I want to know is there any peace at all in being what you are? I do not question your existence, I do believe. Are there times you are glad you are what you are? I would just like to know what it is like to have heightened senses and longevity. This is truly amazing to me, and I would just like to know more about you and your ways.
Adamaris, wonderful use of Descartes but don’t forget Cicero’s “Vivere est Cogitare” quote. I do perceive you to be a very intelligent person and that is enlightening. However, if people would live by these quotes I do believe understanding would come to them.
Xavier, I just want to know your experience, you are truly interesting to me.
What is a windigo?
I meant mingle with humans at night walking down the street, park, night clubs and etc.
They don’t have to wait until midnight as long as it’s dark they can come out and we don’t even know if they have some kind of serum they can take so they can be out in the light. After all these centuries they could of created, researched and found something to help them be in the sun. I wouldn’t doubt it…..
Jane,
Vampires are already a dying breed, this of course is no secret.
newyorkshedoc,
I hope you can get a plane ticket, I will meet you in Florida. Once you get here I can meet you at the airport garage in Tampa only after 10:00 PM. this is my final answer.
Adamaris if you agreed to meet someone you have never met before and were in my position and you didn’t know if they were going to try and kill you, what would you do? I have managed to stay out of attention for this long.
All the other comments look to be random talk so if I have missed any, ask me to read them please.
Jane,
You are a true friends thank God for people like you still here in earth.
Adamaris, I am very interested in you… Are you male? You strike me as male.
If not, forgive me.
Xavier, it’s so awesome that you are willing to meet shedoc… but are you willing to let her come home safely? what happens if she tells us what happened?
wouldn’t that expose you?
OHHHHHHH You’re going to meet here in a Tampa airport garage???? What are you going to say BOOOOOOOOOOO????
Childlike, according to supernatural belief a windigo is a creature that once started out as a human being, but the windigo was cursed from birth. This creature started out as any human would; being brought into this world by a loving mother and a caring father, but somewhere along the lines something changes. Soon after the windigo begins to be sickened at human food; the sight, the smell, and the taste. A new hunger soon arises; a hunger for human flesh, and once that hunger has been satisfied it becomes a necessity to survive. Unfortunately, the more human flesh the windigo eats the more powerful it becomes; its strength is increased, its vision becomes sharper, and it will become what is known as the ultimate hunter. With these abilities there is one that supasses them all it becomes immortal, but at a terrible price. The windigo become deformed, they are forever cursed to the night, and soon there after they even forget who they really are. Well, I hope I have answered your question to your liking and please feel free to ask me anything you would like. I am usually not too far from my computer and I should have your answers rather quickly.
Dragon,
I am sorry I asked. It’s scary! How did the curse started and when? I never heard of it before how interesting and scary at the same time. Thanks for telling me you are very kind.
Karen M.,
OMG! You just KILL me!!!!!!! You are too funny!!
HE won’t show, probably won’t be able to get a weekend pass from the home.
Sorry guys, but I am REALLY leaning towards vampires being nothing but fantasy!!
Dragon,
I agree with Child like – creepy BUT very interesting and well told!!! Thanks!
Xavier
you seem to know a lot about this kind of thing. I was just wondering if you wouldn’t mind taking a look at my story and telling me whether or not you think the encounter I had was with a vampire or not. If anyone is able to tell it would be another vampire right?
I’d really appreciate it,
Becca
http://www.vampiretruth.com/did-i-see-a-vampire-in-kentucky/
DarStarr, thank you. I really appreciate your comment.
Childlike, as to where, how, and when the windigo begain I really do not know. The story of the windigo was told to me by my great-grandmother when I was a child still living with my family on our reservation. Where it is true or not I really can not say, but the tribal elders believed them to be true and warned us quite frequently not to wander off alone.
I agree with child like creepy and i didnt even know it exsisted. Bless their poor soul.
Xavier,
I wanted to thank you for your fantastic article. I found it not only informative, but intriguing. I have a few questions I would like to ask though.
1. Why are vampires dying out? Wouldn’t the coven want to hold on to it’s legacy?
2. How do you support yourself financially? Do you work like mortals do?
3. How many people have you transformed? Do you like doing it?
This find was truly amazing, and I believe you. I recently had a very interesting Ouija board experience, and you confirmed what I was told!
Thank you,
Kim
dragon,
Thank you for your information. It’s great to have your family tell you stories they have heard or seen themselves. In our tribe stories were also told but it was about our Great Powerful Chief who had the power to turn himself into a wolve to protect our tribe. Thanks again for the information.
Wow, I go to town and miss out on all the fun!
Childlike,
I know this is going to come off as rude, but why don’t you do as most of us and do some research yourself. The web itself holds a vast amount of information. I’d start with wikipedia, that is unless you are only interested in bed time stories. ( No offence meant to Dragon) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wendigo
Jane,
How old is this friend of yours? I only ask because if this person you speak of is young it could merely be a fad or a phase as with many these days. Granted it is one you should be concerned with. All you can do is show your friend how you feel, support the facts and await to see what decision will be made.
Karen,
You always keep me amused. I am thrilled that you are sticking around. It’s good to have apposing sides. How boring would it be if we just all went along with what was said here?
Newyorkshedoc,
It is one thing to hold your obvious disbeliefs about Xavier being what he claims to be, but I find it down right foolish, especially for someone who claims to have a medical background ( which means you have an education about you) to go making such bold challenges or dares if you will. At this point it’s not even a matter of whether or not Xavier’s words are true or not. You are opening yourself up to taking a chance on meeting with a stranger in an area that could be dangerous for you. That marks you a fool. I do so hope that you reconsider and think carefully before allowing your curiosity or ego get the best of you.
Xavier.
Again, I still give you the benefit of the doubt mostly because I simply want to know more and enjoy what I have read so far. (All of it) I do hope you as well that you will not allow someone’s dare’s or challenges to give way to you doing something in which you may later regret. bare in mind there are those that wish to do you hard, whether you are a vampire or not. You have exposed yourself to all and having doing so there are those that will admire you and those that will cast stones. Be careful and wise in your decisions, not quick and careless.
CareTaker,
My apologies, I figured since the thread has gone astray once again I might as well put my two cents in.
Bleedme, first of all, do you believe everything you read? Do you get out much?
Wikipedia??? This is your source for info?? To be quite frank with you, Wikipedia I have found is full of many flaws. And although it can be good for a read, it is not entirely reliable.
Secondly, this has nothing to do with ego or my education. Do you play poker, by chance?
Have you heard of “a bluff?” I am sure you have. Forgive my sarcasm. Sorry, I am forever a skeptic. Its not so much a challenge or a dare but merely an observation to see what Xavier will tell me. I simply do not believe him and his story. And I am trying to prove it wrong by bringing about certain questions. I guess you didn’t see through the irony and sarcasm of my questions. Who is the bigger fool???? You think I would actually fly down to see him on his terms? LOL. No offense to you but you are gullible.
I would ONLY meet him on my terms in a crowded area with several people i know who are present and in NYC only.
I still stand by what I said before, I think there is no such thing as vampires and people who pretend to be them are people who desperately want to be someone else because they are truly unhappy with themselves whether it be a physical or mental illness. I mean, come on, if vampires truly existed, I am sure they wouldnt make it public or post blogs on the net about themselves hoping to reveal themselves to the world and the coven. Grow up.
My advice to you, BleedMe, is to wise up and don’t believe everything you read.
Lastly, you call me a fool? I am not the one who has the screenname “Bleed Me.”
Newyorkshedoc,
I used wikipedia as a reference or an example, not to be taken as the sole source merely a suggestion. You can pick apart any source of information easily for all have flaws. And I get out plenty enough to suite me just fine. No, I do not believe everything I read, and I am not gullible. Yet I find interest in what others have to say, yourself included. You say you were merely calling Xavier’s bluff. Well, bravo for you. There is no question here or doubts that you do not believe what Xavier has stated, and that’s your right to do so. Yes, from where I am sitting it looks as if you were doing exactly as you claim to be doing in calling his bluff (antagonizing), or pushing his buttons. What I was getting at is that ‘if’ (and I emphasize on the ‘if’, because I have no clue who you are or what you are about) if you were taking this serious, then you were going about it all wrong. It was my opinion that a person would have to be a fool to do such a thing, and that you were leading readers of this thread to believe that, not so much myself might I add. As far as my screen name goes, well it was the first thing that came to mind, and I like it. This is the last time I will respond to you for I just do not see any further reason to battle wits with someone who appears to be combative, and argumentative and takes pleasure from pushing other peoples buttons just to find out if they were right or wrong.
Jamie,
we are meeting in a parking garage, she wont know anything about where I reside or that kind of thing her questions I will answer nothing more nothing les, she can go home after that, as long as she doesn’t try anything that would otherwise threaten my life or existence.
Karen M.,
no, unlike you, I plan to be as civil as possible.
Kim,
1a. We are a dying breed because the human immune system is starting to reject the disease.
2a. I can support myself as I do not need to pay for food or anything of that sort. And I do work from home naturally.
3a. So far, none, I have no wish to try…
Becca,
I will look into it.
newyorkshedoc,
I kinda figured you would back out when you found I was not backing down, I will not go to new york I assume you would also want to meet me in broad daylight from when you said, “crowded area”. so, I will not ridicule you for being a skeptic, but I will ridicule you for turning down your only chance to meet something that is beyond any human comprhension this was a once in a lifetime… now lets get back to commenting…
Xavier-
This question is going to sound quite odd but how do you think? Let’s take you’re age as an example. If you were twenty one when you were ‘turned’ then do you mentally age normally or is your thought process pretty much the same as it was when you were twenty one? Has that changed at all?
Newyorkshedoc:
You are right!
Wikipedia?
Anyone, and I do mean ANYONE can alter that info… I know this from personal experience!
I wrote the history of a town, stating it was built by orphans rescued from a burning church…it was VERY elaborate, and, pretty funny.
What should be questioned is if vampires DO exist… There have been sightings and encounters throughout history, much like UFO’s, Ghost’s, and Big Foot. All the evidence come from actual encounters, and not concrete evidence, like having one of the above mentioned being scientifically studied (That we know about anyway). I personally believe all these things. Not because I have personally experienced any of these odd phenomenons, but because there are so many things on this earth that are yet discovered.
A few months ago a family friend of mine caught a pixie faerie on camera… Sounds odd… and some may think I am lying. That does NOT matter, for I know whats true. I think to experience certain things, one must open their mind to them.
newyorkshedoc,
Me either I don’t believe in vampires, but I think he is just looking for attention, he could be a bored kid home alone with no friends, and this thread dragging on and on is just giving him something to do. I know he clamied to have been ” changed ” when he was 22 or 23, but in reality, I think he’s about 14! Ask him to join TP and then you can private message him??
Kim, that would be an amazing picture… can you post it in a story on here so we can all see and comment?
Jamie,
The picture is pretty cool!
I’ll talk to him to see if I could do that!
Xavier,
So if the human immune system is starting to reject the disease, (my guess it would be do to our heavily medicated society), not to mention we have antibodies to numerous diseases, could that mean there could be a cure for vampirism?
If you work out of the home, what exactly do you do? Online stuff? I know you don’t need food, but you have other expenses. You would have to pay for the internet you are using, electricity to run your computer, water, property taxes, and other things. Even if you did work from the home, you still would have to give your employer your Social Security number, a diploma (depending on the job), and other personal information to keep on record, so you get paid, and taxes can be deducted. So being as old as you are, and not being able to furnish these records ( In current time, to avoid suspicion of identity theft), how do you do it?
I just had to comment that I have been following this thread and it is truly entertaining. I hope you all continue the dialogue.
Kim!
Wonderful points!! I have been wondering the same thing.
Come on people, life is tough enough – why live a fantasy!!!
Icis,
My mentality ages normally but to keep my sanity I still do joke around and mingle, so the answer I guess, would be that I learn the same as any while barely aging and I stil